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robhbk24
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 372
posted July 04, 2004 12:59 PM  
i run a metric chassis, it works real well on a tacky, wet , or slightly slick track but latelt the track owner has decided not to work on the track till sat afternoon. the car is really good in the heat, i have won two of my last three and have finished in the top three in almost evryone this season, when the track stays good on weeks we have had some rain i am fine and i can run up front but when it gets super slick like last night i have no bite at all. i tried reverse stagger last night and that did not help at all. our rules say no snows but nothing about studded tires i know guys that ice race that make their own with short screws put in through the inside grind the outside down short and tape over the insides to keep them from pinching the tube. it wors real well on ice. i have an old track tire that is only a spare i use for getting the car on and off the trailer if i need it or holding the car up if i need to swap tires so i'm not out anything. i put one together today it took 108 tech screws but it came out pretty good. they won't fall out but i don't know how it will work the ice guys say go for it but i don't know it seems like a studded tire would work on dry slick and it's not in the rules yet.sooo what do you' all think. i hate to mess with the suspension to much cause the car works great 99 percent of the time it's only when it get really slick that i have a prob.

ryan
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posted July 04, 2004 04:14 PM  
Sounds dangerous for other drivers. What if the tire blows and there are screws all over the track. Sounds kinda redneck-ish.
(new word)

snowman
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Total posts: 241
posted July 04, 2004 05:27 PM  
Well, besides what Ryan said....lol... You may not be in direct violation of the rules, but it certainly breaks the "spirit" of the rule........

They will make a new rule, on the spot......just for you......

I wouldn't do this.....

Good Luck,
snowman

waltonjr1
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Total posts: 516
posted July 04, 2004 05:53 PM  
Probally will tear the track surface up.


juliaferrell
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 370
posted July 04, 2004 08:51 PM  
where are you going to put just one? I never knock an innovator. This has been done successfully before.

racer17j
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Total posts: 5390
posted July 04, 2004 10:12 PM  
I thought I tried everything. LOL
I have had my suspention strapped up to my cage to hold the rearend in place, then on a yellow had the offical tighten up the strap.

Also ran a 4x4 above the RR leaf spring and the car would turn on a dime, but the bumps will knock you right out of your seat.

robhbk24
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Total posts: 372
posted July 05, 2004 08:28 AM  
hey 17j your right on one thing i've never had any luck on a dry slick surface, i started at two other tracks that were always tacky and occasionaly ran an asphalt track locally where they had put some sort of adhesive through the corners. i've been racing this track for 4 years now and when it's tacky i'm 100 percent but you never know how it's gonna be the last two weeks it has beeen rougher than a cornfield sideways after being smooth every night for the longest time. if they would remain consistent one way or the other it would be nice but i was just looking for any ideas for the slick stuff when we get it. i fig on nputting the tire on thr rr to help with forward bite coming out.the rf sticks okay it's just the rr. and i know if i ease on the throttle (drive like there is an egg under the peddle) it'd be better but i just can't get the hang of that. the message gets lost somewhere between my head and my rf.lol

racer17j
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Total posts: 5390
posted July 05, 2004 09:14 AM  
they sell an accelerator stop package that is adjustable at youre local speed shop.you can back it off when it`s not so slick.it helped me alot,as i also have little control over my right foot.drive it like you stole it

iowatoolman
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Total posts: 369
posted July 16, 2004 01:06 AM  
teh other option would be a mt tire on slick nights that helps i run figure 8's i run hancook dynamics mt series they help alot

popwillis
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 30
posted July 16, 2004 07:29 AM  
I"m all for creative rules interpretation, but my concern would be what happens to the guy behind you when you spin the tires and the screws fly out?

marshalr
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 148
posted July 16, 2004 08:34 AM  
Are you looking to move up one day ? a late model or sprint car maybe. I would try to learn how to adapt my car and driving style to the conditions.
The dry slick conditions require more crossweight, so that you are working the left rear tire more. Hook up a front sway bar, put a couple of turns in it and that will help.Throw a 60 pound weight in the left rear of the car, Less rear stagger is good, being able to s- q - u- e- e- z- e the throttle on coming off the corner, vary your turn lines, there is probably some moisture available there - somewhere.
Look at the track conditions for the big money dirt races, usually pretty shiny and slick. The guys that know how to adjust for those conditions are the guys who'll fight for the win and the big money.
I don't know about your track, at the tracks i race on the heats pay nothing, just determines the line up for the main, If you win a heat and start up front but can't get a bite coming off turn 2 half the field passes you on the back straight and what have you gained by winning the heat race ? Winning heats is ok, running up front for the money in a main is better in my opinion.
I kinda suspect that just one of those 108 Teks will let all of the air out of the tire when it gets pushed up through the tire. A flat right rear will introduce you to a new kind of loose.
Just my opinion, you didn't ask for it, but i'd fix the car where it ran best in the main.

robhbk24
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 372
posted July 16, 2004 08:41 AM  
actually you're right i worked with changing my offsets last week and the car was pretty good i led the first two feel to fourth after i hit a large pothole and then was taken out a few laps later but all in all not so bad i finally got the car to hook up on the slick stuff better and i am still going to try afew things. the tire in ? never made it on the car but it served a dual purpose someone saw it in the back of my truck and whined and cried and complained. it was great for once they left the rest of my car alone they were so concerned with the tire in the back of my truck and later on my trailer that they ingnored the rest of the things they usually whine about. body/motor/tranny/ whatever. i have no plans on using the tire anytime soon but i think i'll keep it in the truck just for giggles.lol

marshalr
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 148
posted July 17, 2004 09:19 AM  
Good Job !
and you're having fun with the other guys...Perfect !

    

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