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Author Topic:   front end ?
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 36
posted June 28, 2004 10:18 PM  
I have an 87 cutlass chassis (metric obviously) and am kind of puzzled about my Toe out on the right front. When the car sits on the ground, there is just a little bit of toe out (which is what I want), however when I jack the front end of the car up, the toe out multiplies radically ( it looks like i'm cranking the wheel when its about to spin. now i know that isn't supposed to work like that so somethings up...

now another problem i noticed when i re-assembled the car over the winter, the right front tie rod would not fit correctly... it was too long. I put all new parts on the car but they were all identical to what was taken off the car from the 03 season. to get it to work I had to cut both tie rod ends to get the rf wheel to line up where it needed to be...

I'm pretty sure both issues might have a simple answer but I'm stumped. Oh, and just to add to it, the toe out issue was also happening last year with the correct sized tie rod so i don't think its related.

Any help would be appreciated!

rico 08
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 1139
posted June 29, 2004 07:02 AM  
Sounds like the spindle is bent,try another spindle and see if the modified tie rod is too short.You shouldn't have to shorten anything.

Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 36
posted June 29, 2004 04:46 PM  
spindle was never raced before. checked it to be straight and the spindle saver mounts correctly so that isn't an issue.

Thats what I originally thought at first myself

Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 69
posted June 29, 2004 05:04 PM  
did you bulid the car the first time yourself ? on our street stock we cut off some of the threads so we can get more adjustment out of them

Dirt Roller

Total posts: 23
posted June 29, 2004 05:45 PM  
SOunds like a bumpsteer problem. On the 2 ashphalt metrics I help out, we had to bend the pitman arm so its a 3 5/8" drop. We also had to slot teh frame for the idler arm and lower it as far as possible (til the bolt head hits the inside bottom of the frame rail)
ALso, the idler arm and pitman arm are not square to one another, but angled towards the right side (ie right tie rod shorter than left)

At 2 1/3" bump the car was toeing out 5/8" on the right and 1/2 on the left. We were able to get both sides to ZERO toe change through 3" bump and 3" rebound. BTW I built a bumpsteer gauge for about $40


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