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akadirtracer7
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Total posts: 217
posted April 11, 2004 07:30 AM  
This car has always been pushy going in but I have managed to get to the other side of it finally.changed shocks and springs and I like the way it drives now but have a loose in condition. Heres the set up lf 1000 rf 1100 lr 225 rr 200 bilsien 1043 up front and 1044 rear. 53.7 left 50 rear and 53.8 cross. 244 bite total weight 3225 I was thinking about more spacer left rear to raise cross or adding some weight to the rear and is the bite out of line. I think the right foot can deal with the loose through the turn but I want to correct the loose in problem.

racer17j
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posted April 11, 2004 09:11 AM  
no stagger front 1" rear 3" offset all the way around 16 rf 15 rear 14 lf goodyear short track specials 86 --87 rollout Hey 17j been using a set of home made scales and not real satisfied with consistancy the car weights about 50 lbs more than it did last time I weghted it. it scaled 53.8 cross 53.8 left and 49.1 rear full tank and me in it then I added 64# rear and it scaled 53.5 cross 53.8 left and 50.5 rear . If you were doing a seat of the pants adjustment without scales what kind of change would you make

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boas51
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posted April 11, 2004 12:05 PM  
with around 50% rear, or less, i would work more with the front to help entry.
start with brakes!
lighter lf spring/less compression on lf shock, or opposite on right.
which side you work with will depend on how the car is exiting.
with more rear weight i would be telling you the opposite, all you can do is go one way and feel the difference. making a change for the worse, and knowing, is better than making no change.

outlawstock17
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posted April 11, 2004 01:26 PM  
yep, take some rear brake out of it...

racer17j
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posted April 11, 2004 02:18 PM  
I was going to run a bilstien 1051 on the right front but seems that they are on back order everywhere thats alittle stiffer comp and lighter rebound than the 1043.No brake adjusting valves allowed. I think maybe I will add that 60# on the rear to get that % up and see if I can find that 1051 shock.

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cd2
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posted April 11, 2004 09:02 PM  
akadirtracer7 I think you shoulg back off the crossweight about 1-11/2 % an this will tighten you on entry.you can also put a 1100 on the L.F. & tighten up going in & to center . You can use a 4" off set on the R.R.an will tighten in an around might want to try this first if on the dry an use your 3" on wet or tacky. cd2

cd2
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posted April 11, 2004 09:10 PM  
akadirtracer7 You can use a 225 on the R.R.this will also help on entry . just try the 4" offset first .If you place any ballast on the rear check your ride heights first put on weight then get frame height back up at the height as before or you will not get the results you need. cd2

Raz_900
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Total posts: 635
posted April 12, 2004 12:55 PM  
Add 2 psi to the LR or drop 2 - 3 psi from the RR. If it's loose coming off too, reverse your stagger. I change min around from + 1.5 to - 1.5 depending on the track. When it's really slick, I go for the most reverse stagger I can get. (limited to 1 tire size).

akadirtracer7
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Total posts: 217
posted April 25, 2004 06:21 AM  
I added 50 lbs. left rear and put 3/8 spacer in the lr and we had a 1 groove track with slime on each side of it so wasn't much I could tell.So last Friday I took 20 lbs off the left rear and put 1/2 " reverse stagger and wow won my heat and got a 2nd in the feature I lead the first 17 laps and raced side by side with the last 2 years champ until he took himself out and of course it was my fault according to him.Tires must have built pressure and the car went away at the near the end and I finished 2nd so we'll fine tune from that point thanks again for your advice. I'm not happy with these homemade scales I took my car to the fruit exchange to weight it and it was 100 lbs. less than the scales said.

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