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Author Topic:   welding with a hobart 175 amp
longracing25
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posted April 22, 2005 12:49 AM  
Hello, i have a new 175 amp hobart mig welder. Is there anybody here who uses one? I'm have a tough time trying to find the best setting for it for cage welding. I know it's not the best, but due to lack of $$, i'm having to use flux now instead of the gas. I am using .035 flux wire. any help who be great....thanks!

rfb320
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posted April 22, 2005 12:51 PM  
I have the same welder and for the cage I set it on 3 for the heat and 80 for the speed and it welds perfect. I dont use the flux core wire.I dont like that stuff. The settings that work good for me like sheet metal I use 1/10, on small square tube and light pipe I use 2/40,heavier cage material would be 3/80 and a quarter inch and heavier I use 4/100. Switch to gas it will make a difference.

longracing25
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posted April 23, 2005 12:47 AM  
yeah, i know. Just don't have the money for the switch at this time...so i need to use the flux. I did notice .035 flux is not the best for body welding. I turned it all the way down to 1 on the heat and that still was too much. The book says to use .024 non-flux for body welding i think.

longracing25
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posted April 24, 2005 07:47 AM  
anybody use the flux with a Hobart?

sideways
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posted April 24, 2005 08:20 AM  
Sorry I had a cage welded with flux.Ground out and went back over with gas welding wire.It just looked unsafe and well sick.Flux is for outside wind blowing and man I need this bracket back on before I go out.

longracing25
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posted April 24, 2005 09:11 AM  
yeah. My problem is the money.Is it better to lease or buy a tank. I have heard both. I heard thsy have to test the tanks every so often, so if it's yours, and it's bad...gotta buy a new one. If it's a lease maybe they just replace it. Anybody have an idea what it would run to lease a bottle(filled with the argon mix)...a medium or large bottle?...Or about what the price is of buying a medium or large tank?

sideways
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posted April 24, 2005 08:42 PM  
I bought my mig used he bought the tank and gas for around $95 small tank.I would suggest checking both cause by the time you weld an entire cage ya may need a refill.So lease may be the way to go.

snowman
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posted April 24, 2005 09:29 PM  
You will need to check the prices locally, as it varies........ Buy the cylinder. Much better deal.

When you buy the cylinder,You are not actually buying that one particuliar cylinder.........You are buying "A cylinder".

When you take it to be "re-filled", they do not refill that one particular cylinder on the spot........They simply give you another "sold" cylinder........

You need not worry about owning a bad cylinder and having to buy another.......

About the welder, if there was any way possible, while it is still new, I would try to trade it back......and pick up a MM210.....so much more machine for the money........

Good Luck,
snowman

dm3
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posted April 25, 2005 08:32 AM  
We have a hobart 175 and love it. we use it with gas only, and if it's to windy to weld with gas - we don't weld.

longracing25
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posted April 25, 2005 09:32 PM  
That much of a differance...i mean, using gas over flux? Everybody i have talked too says it's SO MUCH BETTER........oNE OTHER QUESTION...I'm a wanna be hobby stocker who JUST started the cage. So basically i need enough gas to build the cage right now..and then refill whenever needing to fix whatever. Should i get the biggest bottle, or would a smaller one work? I would imagine those little "Hobart bottles" wouldn't last me past welding up the 4-post cage(if that).I just don't think i need a large tank past the building stage of the car.

19J
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posted April 26, 2005 08:57 AM  
With our small bottle we have welded. The seat in some floor boards atleast 6 bars. Some exhaust pipe. Some lil stuff here and there. We are almost out. It does last a lil while. Oh yeh we were welding on the bumper of my car too.

rfb320
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posted April 26, 2005 04:23 PM  
If you get what I call the medium sized bottle it is about 4ft tall and that will last along time. More than enough to weld up a car maybe even 2.

longracing25
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posted April 26, 2005 06:50 PM  
Thanks! About what did you pay for the medium bottle?

dirtracer14
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posted April 26, 2005 08:06 PM  
I got the gas for my welder last year....wont weld without unless i have to. What kind of presure do you guys run??? I was running about 13 to 15 psi in the little lincon.....then my dad got the big daddy miller and it runs at 30 psi... Welds like a dream. Do i need to bump mine up on the little one?

CUSTOMPERFORMANCE
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posted April 26, 2005 08:51 PM  
I have both a 150 and a 210 miller and I have the psi set at 25-30 on both.

ryan
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posted April 26, 2005 10:03 PM  
We bought a Hobart 180 last winter and when we bought the tank the 4ft tank was about $25 bucks more than the 2 ft tank. As far as trading it in I would bother a 175 will get by just fine. Of course I wouldn't mind having my welder from work Miller 350p It has a digital readout and a Spool gun attachment. http://www.millerwelds.com/products/mig/millermatic_350_350p/

rfb320
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posted April 28, 2005 04:02 PM  
I think I paid about $40-45 for the 4ft. I run my pessure at 20.

Clyde Torkel
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posted April 29, 2005 07:15 AM  
I think you will find the cost of flux core wire will encourage you to use gas with solid(much cheaper) wire. Use at least .030 solid wire.

longracing25
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posted April 29, 2005 08:24 PM  
yeah, i'm just trying to get a quick idea how much a tank of gas is gonna cost me mainly....I didn't know if if was cheaper leasing OR buying a tank......

ryan
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posted April 30, 2005 12:10 AM  
It will vary from area to area just look in your yellow pages and check out all the welding supply places and call them all, prices vary more than you would think. We bought ours at Bomgars.

97dirt
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posted May 03, 2005 05:36 PM  
I've owned the 175 about 3yrs now,It's really a good welder,as far as the settings go its your prefrence,my buddy welds with mine,but always changes my settings!

TRM38
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posted June 27, 2005 11:23 PM  
Check with Tractor Supply Co. if you have one nearby. I leased an 80cf bottle from the local welding place about 10 years ago. Cost was $155 + refills. They opened a new TSC about 6 miles from my house. TSC has bottles to purchase for about $189 for a full 80cf bottle. Refills run under $20. Welding place wanted $30 for a refill and they're about 15miles from my place. Also TSC has longer hours so if I run out on Sunday, I can run in and get a refill. Needless to say, it was an easy decision to turn the lease back in.
PS- I have a new Hobart 180- seems like a great machine so far!

longracing25
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posted June 28, 2005 07:21 AM  
I THOUGHT i seen somewhere that TSC had bottles and did re-fills...but i wasn't for sure.

sc1 racing
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posted July 15, 2005 10:03 AM  
ive got the lincoln 175sp plus and its the best welder ive ever used..

the bottles will generaly cost around 150.00 full ready to go. the 4 foot bottle last me between 3 to 6 months..and i weld constantly..1 bottle will save you much more than flux wire. and i wouldnt trust anything on the track welded gasless..

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