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Xtreme12x
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posted January 16, 2005 08:52 PM  
I've got a good opporutunity to build my new shop. It's going to be about 40x30, split into half down the middle by one post. Our thinkings are on one side, do benches all the way around the walls with outlets. We are going to put a 7 Foot drop ceiling on that side with drop in lights. On the other side we are going to put in a 2 post lift, with no drop ceiling just big 8 foot lights. What else do you guys think would make the perfect shop? We are going to plumb air lines all over the place, have one big shop tool box. Put hanging Steel cabinets up around the top of the benches. I'd also like to make a steel top bench for doing body work on. We are going to epoxy the floor and paint the walls white.

dirt_freek
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posted January 16, 2005 08:59 PM  
just rember bigger is better 60x50 will give you more room do not build too small you will reget it insulate it even if you are in a warm climate if you are in coldclimate then put pipe in the floor for heat even a large water heater will be enough for the shop and a small pump you will be very happy

Xtreme12x
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posted January 16, 2005 09:25 PM  
Let me tell you how we are doing this
we own a 33 thousand square foot building that we just had a well known IMCA Latemodel racer move his shop into. He took my spot, so we have decided to build a new shop in our drive through. It will be a room within a room. It is 40 foot wide and about 100 foot long but in the winter we rent it out for campers and stuff.

rrrrick
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posted January 17, 2005 10:04 AM  
Sounds like a great plan. my only suggestion is keep your work area's close together and your storage farther away. The only problem with a large shop is you spent half the night walking from the racecar to the work bench, workbench to the grinder racecar to the toolbox


wfoondirt
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posted January 17, 2005 11:09 AM  
edited because evidently I misunderstood the question.

[This message has been edited by wfoondirt (edited January 17, 2005).]

Blackgold
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posted January 17, 2005 11:58 AM  
The one thing that I regret not putting in my floor is a drain. I have the in floor heat and any time i bring a vehicle in ,that has been out where it's cold and wet the ice melts and water runs all over. I wish that I had put a slope in the floor to a drain to catch these messes. Maybe not a necessity in a race shop, but sure would be nice if you wanted to bring a vehicle in out of the cold for service.

Xtreme12x
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posted January 17, 2005 01:09 PM  
WFO it is for one car and we had about 5 cars in the same amount of space last year. It just takes organization. You don't have much room because you have everything on wheels. I'm thinking on bulding a war wagon with a set of cheap tools to be able to wheel around in the shop.
I'll have to measure and get an exact square footage for you guys.

wfoondirt
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posted January 17, 2005 02:45 PM  
Oh sorry I thought you wanted advice and not just boast about how your getting a new shop blah blah blah.

You should rename you post. If you just want to cram cars in there it would be a garage not a shop. Shop is derived from workshop, thus its assumed you are going to work on stuff in there.

I'll give you a little advice kid, if you expect people to give you advice, don't belittle them when they do.

Xtreme12x
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posted January 17, 2005 03:06 PM  
I only have so much room to do this with WFO is what I said, I did not belittle you on how you have no room with everything on wheels. That's your choice to have things on wheels, I'd just get tired of moving things.

Xtreme12x
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posted January 17, 2005 03:11 PM  
And speaking of Boasting... Re-Read your post. You have all these tools listed... Oh you've got a MIG/TIG on wheels with your English wheel over here on wheels. And you've got a thousand 8 foot lights bla bla bla... get my point, you had a big snap on tool box bla bla? Just asking opinions not wanting to know what you've personally got. The building is built and we have to build in side it. I'll get some pics and take a good measurment of the space and let you guys know.
I was also thinking on doing a trolly on wheels, we've had one in the past and we used it for almost everything. Jacking up cars, pulling motors, even doing some frame straightening. We built it just wide enough to fit right over a car, and about 7 foot tall.

BanditRacingTX
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posted January 23, 2005 05:44 PM  
Well speaking of shops, I'll describe mine, it started life as a dirt floored 40x60 horse barn down in the back of the pasture of the home we purchased about 3 years ago. I had a concrete floor poured and a friend that is a licensed electrician helped me wire it. The building is framed with used drill pipe and has steel metal building siding. A lot of my tools come from flea markets, pawn shops and garage sales and some from Harbor Freight. But I am as proud of my shop as if it were a DEI shop. Its not what you spend but how you use what you have...NOW LETS GO RACIN'

Elmo
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posted January 29, 2005 06:42 PM  
I would advise some lighting attached to the lower portions of your lift. It's allway's a problem with lighting under the vehicle on a lift. You know, wrench in one hand flashlight in the other BS.

modfan
Dirt Full Roller

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posted January 30, 2005 05:23 AM  
I find air and electric retractors in the ceiling real handy. I have two of each in my shop and there great

nailngoracing
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posted February 08, 2005 08:16 PM  
i'm still dreaming of a shop...dirt floor or concrete, heat or ac, still looking to buy one that comes with a house. no luck yet.

russell pierpont
Dirt Roller

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posted February 13, 2005 11:06 AM  
yes if you havent pored the floor yet put in 8 ancker pots in the floor and reinforce them with rebar you can make them real easy


fastow
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posted February 13, 2005 09:53 PM  
Alot of good ideas here one thing I thought I would mention when pouring a floor for a race shop I put a drain in the center under the car right inside the door so if you pull a vehicle in and it melts off all the run off goes right under vehicle. then on in deeper in the back I poured the crete level for set up and building. another good shop idea would be at least 10 wide and 7'6" high garage doors.

eborcim
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posted March 02, 2005 02:48 PM  
We are planning a new shop too. One thing I want to do is make the shop at least as long as the trailer/truck combination so we can put everything inside and lock it up. You might want to put sprinklers in too for fire protection. I think the heated floor is the way to go. I think an office/mini apartment would also be helpful.

Does anyone have problems working around lifts, or do you just have to plan for the wasted space occupied by the posts/arms.

FYI, www.grizzlytools.com has a workshop planning program that is neat. Doesn't have everything an auto shop would need but you can make dimensions for single pieces of equipment and place them in the room.

sideways
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posted March 23, 2005 01:57 PM  
Well my shop has....lol j/k.I wish we could bring this post back up.I just moved in my new shop and need a few organization ideas.For instance,s**** steel for repairs,small peices,foot long etc.?It is 30x40 has a 8'by 24' loft.8'x8' is the wifes for christmas stuff.We got a new house I got a new garage.Good trade huh!lol Also how to install ancors after floor already in?oops

Kromulous
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posted March 23, 2005 03:19 PM  
Small apartment attached to the shop, now thats an idea.

Throw a Kegarator, BIG screen TV w/ surrond sound and BBQ grill in there and me and my hound dog would never leave.

Excpet to go race of course, and maybe some trollin once in awhile, and i aint talking about fishin either.

zeroracing
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posted March 23, 2005 03:33 PM  
my version has mirrors and a brass pole...i got the mirrors just need to put up the pole.

Ego Racing
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posted March 23, 2005 05:59 PM  
We just sighned the papers for our "DREAM" shop. It is going to be a main area of 60X120. With a storage area on the rear of 20X20 and a second floor office area of 25X30. Total square footage of 8350sqft. Only took us about 6 years of working out of two 10X20 wood buildings and 2 years of a single car garage.

LAWEST
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posted April 10, 2005 04:56 PM  
One of the best things you can do for a race shop is install a urinal!

Eljojo
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posted April 12, 2005 05:38 PM  
LAWest, you are right on about the urinal! got one! ****onit!

eborcim
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posted April 25, 2005 07:27 AM  
dang right about the urinal!

wermm
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posted April 29, 2005 07:07 PM  
is that what you call a funnel sticking through a hole in the wall. I know some guys that used this setup for a long time

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