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joetaylor
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posted March 14, 2004 06:10 PM  
my sponcer just gave me a hoist the problem is that my celing in the shop is only 8" and I need 12' to clear the hoist I thought about raising the the walls but it would mess up the eletrical I also thought about raising theroof but I need 4' to get the clearence any outher ideas would be greatfull

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snowman
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posted March 14, 2004 06:54 PM  
Well, you can shorten the hoist......

You could raise the ceiling (not necessarily the roof).......vault it.......

You could lower the floor......if you were crazy enough and have a track hoe....LOL

Perhaps you best bet would be to sell it and buy what you need......

Good Luck,
snowman

joetaylor
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posted March 14, 2004 07:01 PM  
the cieling is rafters not trusses so I guess I could do that


I do have a back hoe

also thought about a dormer

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Ego Racing
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posted March 14, 2004 08:27 PM  
Might be cheaper to extend the shop for the hoist!

snowman
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posted March 14, 2004 11:18 PM  
Joe, I hope you don't take this wrong....but I got to add a few things.....

When I first seen the question, I think to myself, "Now who in the world would consider these kind of modifications to a building for the sake of a hoist??" (you can buy an engine hoist for 250) ........ But, on the other hand, if a person needs more ceiling height, what's he to do??????

>>>>>>>> "lower the floor">>>>>>> That's a joke.......you can build a new building cheaper.......

Vaulting the ceiling.......it is a viable option......quite do-able.....particularly if it is all exposed.......

But you cannot simply cut out the ceiling joists......if you do the building will fall on your head and kill you dead......and unless your real name is osama, This would be Bad. LOL

You have to build scissor trusses out of what you have now......fully supported before you cut out anything.......

You probably know all this.......(probably ready to break my neck about right now).....

BUT.....once upon a time.....I got to "fix" a building for a well-meaning church group who didn't.......scary....

At any rate, I certainly meant you no offense, and wish you,
Good Luck,
snowman

joetaylor
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posted March 15, 2004 03:58 PM  
hey snowman I wasen't up set I was just looking for ideas

after reading your pos again this hoist lifts the whole car not a engine hoist but a two post above ground carhoist the cherry picker was last years help

I talked to builder (good friend) and his idea was to cut the roof at the cil plate and add 4' wall on top then lower the roof I don't know still sounds like a lota work

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snowman
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posted March 15, 2004 06:52 PM  
OK Joe, I'm on the same page now.......LOL

What your friend suggests can be done.......but it's a shakey deal......and a major pain.....and a major expense unless he has all the equipment to do it.......

Another possible option.....(depending on where in the building you want the hoist and how high the roof is).......would be to raise the ceiling in a retangle shape the size you need.......in other words, raise it just where you want the hoist.......

If you don't mind posts...then this would be pretty easy to support........much tougher (but do-able) if you don't want posts.

This would be the least intrusive and most economical option........

If you don't have enough height for that, or just don't want to......then build your "dormer".......although I think I would just go with a shed roof.....single slope instead of a typical dormer gable......

On the other hand......you got a good reason to extend the shop......lol

Any way you go, you have some work to do....

good luck with the project

snowman


joetaylor
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posted March 15, 2004 07:07 PM  
HAY SNOW I WILL TELL WHAT THE BUILDER HAS TO SAY WHEN HE SHOWES UP THANKS

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Scoot
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posted March 15, 2004 11:03 PM  
Couldnt you add on a building to the side with a taller ceiling easier than redoing the building you already have? Have it just for your lift? Just a thought. It sounded easier to me than redoing the other one.

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joetaylor
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posted March 16, 2004 04:53 PM  
the problem is that I own the building not the property

zeroracing
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posted March 16, 2004 05:07 PM  
shorten the lift and hire a crew of midgets so they can get under the car. or just have a bunch of kids.

[This message has been edited by zeroracing (edited March 16, 2004).]

joetaylor
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posted March 17, 2004 05:15 PM  
I have one son now and I don't see any more kids in MY future at all 1 is enough I will look into the midgits though

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Ego Racing
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posted March 17, 2004 05:29 PM  
I still say the extension on the shop. We bought one of the covered carports with the pole legs and mounted it on some risers and closed the sides in with tin.

zeroracing
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posted March 17, 2004 06:02 PM  
a guy i race against and used to work for has 8 kids now, i think he is starting his own pit crew.

joetaylor
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posted March 17, 2004 06:25 PM  
I clubed my dog
& spaid my wife
get it

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Gene
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posted March 27, 2004 03:16 AM  
There should be no problem to cutting the roof, remove or rase each joist (assuming typical 24ft.), then building a 4" kneewall, setting the joist back, deck it, roof it. If you have local zoning,and building permits, expect problems, and higher property taxes.

77k
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posted March 28, 2004 02:47 AM  
Send the lift to me and your problem is cured.

joetaylor
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posted March 28, 2004 07:56 AM  
THIS THING IS VERY HEAVY I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHIPPING WOULD BE I WILL CHECK IN TO FRIGHT


NOT


ALLTHOUGH I NEED TO UP DATE EVERY ONE GENE HAS THE SAME IDEA THAT I HAD BUT ZONING SAID NO THEN I FILED FOR BUILDING PERMIT WE WENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND BOUGHT 10 ACERS FROM SO NO PROBLEMS GETTING PERMITTION I JUST ASK MY SELP LOL

WE ORDERED A POLE BARN KIT I FIGURED THAT 50X100 WOULD BE BIG ENOUGH IT ARRIVED HERE TODAY I WILL HAVE A CREW ON MONDAY TO PUT IT UP THEY SAID THAT IT WOULD BE DONE IN AWEEK THE CONCREET WILL BE ORDED ON WED FOR SAT I SHULD BE IN THEIR BY 10 OF NEXT MONTH SO I THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU IDEAS AND SUGGESTIONS YOU GUYS ARE GREAT


joetaylor
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posted March 29, 2004 07:09 PM  
HEY SNOW i THOUGHT OF ONE MORE THING I'M DOING ONE MORE THING I'M PUTTING IN PIPEING IN THE FLOORAND HEAT THE WATER WITH A WOOD FIRED BOILER THAT STANDS ALONE OUTSIDE SO I WON'T HAVE ANY MORE COLD DAYS TO WORK ON THE CAR IN THE WINTER

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Elmo
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posted April 17, 2004 05:23 PM  
If you have walls made from 2X4 studs, the solution is an easy one. However getting it done is a major undertaking & DANGEROUS. Simply put, you would get yourself some 12' studs, whack all your walls at a good point (say above or below most of the electrical) and insert the longer studs scabbed on to the existing ones. You would literally have to jack up the entire upper portion of the walls-plate and the Roof, leaving yourself a 4 foot space and insert the longer ones alongside and nail away. Of course first your going to have to remove or disconnect any sideing or other obstruction that hold the roof from raising. This could be a dangerous undertaking! Good Luck

joetaylor
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posted April 17, 2004 07:40 PM  
elmo check the other post workshop sugestions and you will see what my solution was itwas expencive but well worth it but thank you for your suggestion

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