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fatroadking
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 2
posted November 14, 2005 08:14 PM  
My class requires stock suspension. My car is a 84 Caprice 2 door with the squishy grandma suspension. I also have a cop car of the same vintage for parts. Any suggestions on mixing and matching the soft stock springs with the stiffer cop springs for the best handling. How about sway bars. Would adding the larger cop front bar and/or the rear bar be of any benefit? The track is a 3/8 oval. Not sure of the banking. Im new to this. The track is actually Budds Creek Md. if anybody is familiar with it.

racinrob
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 5
posted November 15, 2005 02:51 PM  
Is the track dirt of pavement? Without alot of details on the track I would say yes, Add everything that you mentioned. You should check around to see if 'stock' actually means original equipment, or anything that fits in stock location. If the latter is true, spend the $45 or so each and get yourself racing springs.

marp
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 10
posted November 15, 2005 05:12 PM  
runnin at rick jones' track?potomac?build it to win,burn the rulebook.

crusier#7
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 10
posted November 15, 2005 05:49 PM  
i run an 84 Caprice 2 door, i run the stock springs under it on a 3/8 dirt oval, with high banked and it handles great. i have 2 spring blocks in the right front and one in the right rear and i won 7 of 17 races and the points this year. i had 16 top 3 finishes. i could not buy after market springs to make a car handle as good as it does with stock ones.... i hope this helps

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fabman
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 1
posted November 15, 2005 09:34 PM  
I run an 85 caprice 4 door on the same track as cruiser# 7 and can't complain about the stock suspension either. I run the same set up as cruiser# 7 with 45 less cubic inches and a lot less experience and got 1 win and a 5 top 5's out of 8 races. Great handling car! Hay Cruiser#7 I drive the # 02. I think we met Once?

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mark46ew
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 33
posted November 16, 2005 06:00 PM  
I also run stock springs in my 84 caprice and it turns just fine,just make sure the front sway bar links are new,tried to run without it once and it rolled over way too much,it works on a metric car but not a full size,also run a good set of shocks,A buddy put a rear sway bar off an olds 88 on his impala and likes it,im going to try one next year.

fatroadking
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 2
posted November 21, 2005 03:40 PM  
Thanks for the responses. It is a dirt track. And the rules require "all stock" suspension. But I know many people are bending the rules by removing sway bars and other things but then another guy got disqualified because his shocks werent "stock replacement" type. Sounds like I should just leave the suspension as it is. Any suggestions for alignment specs? All I did was add about a 1/4 inch of shims to the right upper control arm to kick the top of the tire in and removed the same amount fronm the left upper control arm to kick the top of the tire out. Made the car turn alot better though. I also put four new shocks on at the same time. Just the "top of the line" $30 gabriels but they also seemed to make a noticeable difference. So specifically would it be a good idea to put a stiffer cop spring at any of the four locations?

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mark46ew
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 33
posted November 21, 2005 05:19 PM  
I would put it in the right front,It would keep it from rolling too much,sounds like you did the right thing with the shims,That cop car should also have a rear sway bar that would bolt right in stock,try to keep the back low,run some stagger with your tires and it should turn fine.(at least it works on my boat!!LOL).

crusier#7
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 10
posted November 23, 2005 11:11 PM  
FABMAN...good to see you here. you have a fast car that handles great. it was fun running with you this year, you always drove me clean. i hope to have more good runs with you next year....

TheDirtyDeed
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 3
posted December 07, 2005 01:39 PM  
took the championship in 04 with an 85' 2-door caprice. had front and rear swaybar and some kind of dual rear spring setup. any ideas as to it being special order, does not look aftermarket cuz the shorter secondairy spring mounts are welded to the axel casing, and if aftermarket, id like to meet the guy who welded them MOST DEFENITLY add the heavier suspension to the front right, makes a big difference. just watch your shock travel, we ended up hydro-extending (over-pulling) the stock shock with a taller spring. so we ended up bolting the bottem of the shock to the top side of the lower control arm with spacers in it to "shorten" the distance. depending on your style of driving, i would add the heavy duty sway bars to both front and rear to. thats they way i like it, the stiffer the better. had a 400 pontiac in it with a oversized cam. not sure on specks paid 100 bux for the motor, but we had to turn the idle up to 1200 rpm and add a mini-starter to get her to roll over fast enough to start when it was warm. just had to snag the breaks heading into turn 3 to get her to pitch, then just turn right a hair and steer with the pedal. btw, middle of 3 and 4 flatens out and 4 is really flat. poor track design if you ask me but... they say it makes a better view for the fans on the starts. all the drivers will tell you its a pain in the *** . LOL cuz 1 and 2 are STEEP. like, after they water the track 9 outta 10 times you slide to the bottem when you come out of the pits. hope this helps. we also tried a set of taller springs in the rear halfway though. didnt seem to make much of a differance. if any at all but cant vouch for that one cuz we never rate any of our spings. we just look at height, number of coils, diameter of spring material and diameter of coils. we try to go from there, but it would be nice to rate them, but we are cheap. lol rather but the manhours and seattime into it and figure out what works on our own. that way nobody else knows. the best kept secreat is an untold secreat.

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