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Author Topic:   Manual Transmission Conversion in Metric Car
DeanHensler
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posted November 08, 2005 02:31 PM  
I've got an 86 Monte Carlo that I'm building for a bomber car. I'm having the motor built right now and want to go with a Saginaw Three Speed transmission. I have never worked with a manual before, so I don't know how the clutch setup works. Can someone explain to me all the parts I'll need and how they go together?

dirtyboy58
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posted November 08, 2005 03:55 PM  
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DeanHensler
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posted November 08, 2005 03:56 PM  
Do you have a book that you would recommend?

racer17j
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posted November 08, 2005 05:13 PM  
i have done this before with the components from a late 70s early 80s malibu. there were some of these built with 3 and 4 speeds to be shipped to Iraq as taxis but for some reason they were never shipped. at least here in canada they use to be pretty common.

DeanHensler
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posted November 08, 2005 06:35 PM  
Well lets hear it, what all parts am I going to need and where do they go? I'm looking for specifics here. A picture would be awesome.

jay116
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posted November 09, 2005 08:42 AM  
I have a 70's chevy pickup with standard transmission and i am pulling the motor and tranny and s****ping the old body. I am also trying to convert a nova over to a manual transmission.

So i am getting the clutch pedal, linkage, nuts and bolts.

Do i need the plate mounted on the frame that creates the pivot? I havent checked the nova.

Also, this truck has a 4 speed granny low and the shifter stabs into the top of the transmission. What kind of tranmission could it be and would it be useful for a bomber/hobby?

Thanks

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SDJohnson
Dirt Newbie

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posted November 19, 2005 03:29 PM  
all you need is the brake pedal heat and bend it cut the pad down a little and get a longer gd8 bolt mount it right next to the brake pedal.

Eljojo
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posted November 20, 2005 04:16 AM  
Rookie, you want to use a three speed or a four speed with the shifter forks on the side. There's been several threads here about ho-maid shifters, do a search and find that info. You can use the "Z" bar off the truck, but it will require a little mod. Good luck!

gould
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posted November 20, 2005 07:11 AM  
You can buy the clutch pedal and cable from JRmotorsports.

the rookie
Dirt Newbie

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posted November 26, 2005 10:10 PM  
So is this transmission useless to me for racing? Does anybody else have an opinion?

The jrmotorsports clutch cable assembly looks like the way to go. Is it ready to bolt or weld on and engage?


Thanks

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James Ott
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posted November 27, 2005 09:03 AM  
Thats a truck tranny sell it on ebay

john56h
Dirt Roller

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posted December 04, 2005 02:56 PM  
For those junk yard scavengers out there....some late 70's & early 80's American Motors Spirit an Concord have a nice compact hydraulic clutch master cylinder and slave cylinder set-up that works well. Saves the trouble of getting and adapting all of the mechanical clutch linkage.

Mark Wakefeld
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posted December 04, 2005 03:02 PM  
Nobodys going to tell him that his clutch fork will be going about 5 inches into the floor??

That might be a little issue if your not set back very far.

DeanHensler
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posted December 05, 2005 06:43 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by Mark Wakefeld:
Nobodys going to tell him that his clutch fork will be going about 5 inches into the floor??

That might be a little issue if your not set back very far.



Got a picture of what this looks like?

Mark Wakefeld
Dirt Roller

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posted December 05, 2005 03:19 PM  
looks like a 5 inch hole you must cut in your floor in order to use a clutch fork and then cover.

you also need to use a push slave or youll need another 12 inch hole for the pull slave to fit in there.

MAYBE you can use a z bar and get it to fit?? theres not a lot of room there with cast iron exh. manifolds and deffinitely not enough with headers.

I guess a lot of the above guys never actually used a stock clutch fork like they are telling you to??

Champ2x36
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posted December 05, 2005 11:53 PM  
You may all think I'm nuts, but this worked for me in a '78 Monte. I used a bellhousing and clutch fork that was originally from a '71 Nova. I made a homemade clutch pedal, and ran a cable from the fork back thru a small hole in the floorboard, back along the floor where it joins the driveshaft tunnel, and used 2 small pulleys on the floor in front of the seat. The cable came back to the pulley by the driveshaft tunnel, across to the pully by the rocker, and back ahead to the home-made clutch pedal. I used a turnbuckle to attatch the cable to the pedal, that way I could use the turnbuckle for adjustment. We had a bunch of guys copy that setup after seeing it in my car.

Ed

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hotrodenford
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posted December 06, 2005 09:26 AM  
What about the hydrolic throwout bearing used in the 80's and 90' chevy's infrount of the t-5. I am shure that someone somewhere make special ones or an adapter to fit whatever trans you are using. then the only thing sticking out of the bellhousing is a tube that goes to the mastercylinder. I know that some of them are self bleading too.

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