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Racin17
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 6
posted November 04, 2005 02:18 PM  
Last year I built my first "Pure Stock" and had to cut this cage out of a recked Regal. This year I wrecked that car the last race of the year, know my problem is the cage sits in the car about an inch to an inch and a half lower than original. The cage is still in great shape so I don`t want to s**** it, but how can I add an inch to the bottom 6 spots that will be welded to the frame? I have heard of just welding an inch on to the bottom, or buying plate steel and welding that to the frame before cage install. Any help would be appreciated!


track_trash_66
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 50
posted November 04, 2005 03:03 PM  
if ya want you can find a size larger in pipe and sleeve it.

redneck racing
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 860
posted November 04, 2005 04:02 PM  
I agree with 66 cept depending on what size the cage is, we will say 1 3/4, take about a 6in piece of 1 1/2 and split the difference with the 1 3/4(3in) weld it in then put the 1 3/4 over that to make up the length and weld er up. Eddie

bigdozer
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 54
posted November 04, 2005 10:57 PM  
need to set the roll cage in the frame by notching the top of the frame rail and set it into the frame never weld to top of the frame spend the money and stay safe

dirtyboy58
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 40
posted November 05, 2005 08:15 PM  
sleeve it like said before and also leave it long enough to weld to the bottom side of frame use a hole saw to drill thru top double welds double stregth

Racin17
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 6
posted November 06, 2005 09:10 AM  
Sleeving it sounds like the way to go. I guess **** welding it wouldn`t be as strong. I actually just picked up the car last night, I`m pumped! HERE WE GO AGAIN.....

Thanks guys

sc1 racing
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 419
posted November 06, 2005 12:19 PM  
how old is the cage? im surprised these saftey gurus havent asked yet. i never run a stock car over 4 or 5 years. they get twisted weak and brittle. not to mention if they sit out side. the outside can look brand new while the inside of the pipes are rusty. no sense in trying to pinch money when saftey only cost as much as a good carb..

James Ott
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 131
posted November 06, 2005 12:52 PM  
17 a **** weld joint would not be that strong. as others have said sleeving is the way go. While you have the cage out inspect every joint all over. Look for cracks they can be repaired. If the welding is done properly through the frame or on top of the frame will not make a difference. The weak point is at the outer edge of the weld on the tubing. This is called the "heat affected zone" . In shear stress this will be the point of failure. Its not very likely it will happen. I would have to disagree with the statement that cage would wear out. Take a coat hanger and see how far and how many times you need to bend it to get it to break. Corrosion on the other hand could be a problem, watch out for water trapped in the frame from pressure washing. Just my thoughts!

Racin17
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 6
posted November 06, 2005 03:25 PM  
I don`t know how old the cage is but I have completly sanded and repainted it(waiting for the new car), all of the tubing still looks very good as well as all the original welds. I used to worry about the stability of the cage at the frame welds untill I recked last years car. I hit the wall pretty hard bending both of the front horns almost 45 degrees upwards. The frame where the front cage was welded actually tore instead of the welds braking. Pretty messed up but it kinda makes me feel better at least about our welds.

James Ott
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 131
posted November 06, 2005 06:17 PM  
Thats what I was talking about...if the welds are done properly the tubing will always fail.

redneck racing
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 860
posted November 06, 2005 07:51 PM  
SC1 I would think that it would come down to how well the car was took care of, I have seen guys that keep there cars outside uncovered etc, I for one keep mine inside the shop, you can always sandblast it down so you can check the welds etc, the 73 Nova that I built in 95 is still going strong because the kid that has it keeps it inside also, grant it through the years it might be a bit tweaked but structually it is a very strong cage. Eddie

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