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hotrodenford
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 60
posted August 11, 2005 10:53 AM  
We have pritty much beat the **** out of out car this year and are going to build a new one for next year. we race on a med. banked 1/4 mile clay. class is factory stock. rules are here: http://www.geocities.com/hotrodinford/rules/factorstockrules080305.htm

my 3 options are as follows:

1: A '65 dodge dart. We already have a motor, trans and rearend from our existing car. car cost = $300. Most everything would be transfered from this years car because we already run a dodge.

2: '74 chevy malabu. car cost = free. I don't currently have any chevy parts and would have to get a moter and trans. The parts are cheep and every one else has chevy stuff.

3: '73 chevy nova. car cost = $300. Same as number 2 but I think its in better shape as a street car.

All 3 cars would have to be stripped and have all the race car stuff installed. I am leaning towards the dodge because we already have the parts. But at the same time they were very hard to find to start with unlike chevy parts. I am also thinking of rebuilding the nova for the street. It would be pritty cool.

So...what do you all think?

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J3
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 188
posted August 11, 2005 01:27 PM  
1. You should run a FORD.
2. Rebuild the nova for the street.
3. You should run a FORD.
4. Run the malibu. (Cheap and easy to find parts.)
5. You should run a FORD.


Special Ed
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 63
posted August 11, 2005 02:53 PM  
J3 is right on the money with his reply....especially the part about...RUN A FORD...If you can't run a Ford then I would go ahead with the Dodge. No need in having a race car that can get lost in the parking lot!! Good luck.

redneck racing
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 860
posted August 11, 2005 03:05 PM  
Personally i ran a 73 nova for quite some time and really liked it, easy to set up etc my 2 cents. Eddie

chrysler300le
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 10
posted August 11, 2005 03:57 PM  
I'm into Mopars so i'm going to say run the Dodge.

If your having decent success now with the Dodge your running now then I wouldnt' change brands. I'm not sure what model your running now though. I've read on another forum that the A-bodies aren't that great for dirt track.

DangerZoneRacing
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 176
posted August 11, 2005 05:18 PM  
74 Malibu all the way. Ive ran a ford, a nova and a 75 malibu and the best choice is the malibu. Dont hesitate. Ford and dodge are way to expensive. Run the GM for cheap horsepower. The malibu is a full frame unlike the nova so it will handle the same everytime you go into a corner. Malibu is the #1 choice here, plain and simple.

dirt_mopar99
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 94
posted August 11, 2005 05:37 PM  
Mopar!!!! You have the parts already. Take the time to do some of the tricks on the front end like shortining the A- frames or put a B-body sub under it. I don't and won't believe that a Chevy is cheaper horsepower in the long run. The only thing that costs more on a 360 vs a 350 is the engine kit. (must be because the Chevy boys buy them twice as often...lol) But machining a V8 costs the same wether it's Mopar, Ford or GM. Plus the Dart should give you a good weight advantage and the selection of rear leafs for Chrysler is real good since most modifieds run Chrysler length leafs. Did I mention you should run a Mopar?

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DangerZoneRacing
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 176
posted August 11, 2005 07:18 PM  
Ican go with what mopar99 said. When it comes to mopar listen to him. In the late 90's I use to race against one, a Dart, it was pretty fast and handled good. He sold it to another guy that ran it for a couple years and won a bunch with it and now his son runs it against mopar99. Good cars, personally I think there ugly as street cars but on that track they look pretty cool. I'd go for it being you have everything to run it. For setup tips on mopars listen to mopar99, he'll get you up front with that car.

racer17j
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 5390
posted August 11, 2005 08:11 PM  
WOW... thanks for all the replys. Just so you'all kow I would run a ford if I had one. It's just that I have or have access to the cars listed. I forgot to add the web site to what we currently have: http://www.geocities.com/hotrodinford/index.html
Its still a work in progress. The unabody on the dart is not an issue because I am going to box it in. No one has, or ever will, check so im going to stiffen it up as much as I can. It will be more work than the malibu but I am thinking that the malibu will be too big of a car. And its a chevy

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t_train75
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 50
posted August 12, 2005 04:27 PM  
If I can ask who is the mopar that races against mopar 99 because I used to race against Mopar 99 also?


DangerZoneRacing
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 176
posted August 12, 2005 09:03 PM  
Glen Eckman use to run mopars up until the late 90's, it was a white 68. Stan Olson runs mopars, purple 69X. Stans son, Justin Runs Stans old Dart, orange 169, in the pures. Glen actually use to own that Dart and sold it to Stan, and Stan ran it for a couple years then he built a Aspen and gave the Dart to his son. That dart is actually a diplomat, if I remember right, with a dart body on it. That Dart was awesome car on a wet track, Stan could make that thing stick like glue, and pull like mad when it was wet. Hope thats what you were looking for.

hotrodenford
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 60
posted August 12, 2005 11:58 PM  
Does anyone know of a good website thats shows mopar tech stuff? I am interested in the suspension and frame differences between the years of darts, deamons, dusters, volairs and all the other A bodies if I missed any.

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dirt_mopar99
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 94
posted August 13, 2005 01:10 AM  
Moparchat.com, Allpar.com as well. Stan ran a Cordoba stub under his dart. That may work well for you as well. The older Darts may be tougher than the 70's though...

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chrysler300le
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 10
posted August 13, 2005 05:39 AM  
moparstyle.com is another good website for info.

t_train75
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 50
posted August 13, 2005 12:19 PM  
I haven't been able to make it to any of the races this year seeing as how i know live 1200 miles away but that is who i thought you were talking about. Just for your knowledge and not to be picky but i think justin built a new car this year. Mopar 99 can help me out with that. Hey mopar i heard you got some new toys for the race car too my source could be wrong but if i am right i think that you will like what you have.


dirt_mopar99
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 94
posted August 13, 2005 10:24 PM  
I have the same dist. (I need to find one that isn't welded) to send down. Ran the carb tonite, some better but it needs something else. I ate up my first axle bearing in 9 years tonight. Missed the heat by 5 min. but made the back row of the feature. Passed a few.

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t_train75
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 50
posted August 15, 2005 07:18 PM  
The baring thing stinks . Better luck this weekend. Yeah when I talked to him earlier this year he said he thought the dist. would make a pretty decent gain. did you find the carb you wanted or do you have one like carl?

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dirt_mopar99
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 94
posted August 16, 2005 04:47 AM  
I have the big one. It was the one I was running... Ran like Sh*7 in the heat in town here Lowered the float and it ran better. Carls ran awful.. couldn't get out of it's own way.

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powerglides
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 374
posted August 18, 2005 04:53 AM  
I have gone through 9+ a arms and 5 spindles this year so far (yeah its a really bad year) The most Important question you have to ask is, do you have a BUNCH of extra parts for a 65 Dart?

hotrodenford
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 60
posted August 18, 2005 12:48 PM  
Why did you break/bend so many parts? is it the car , the driver, or the other cars on the track? so far this year all of our damage is from amature competors.

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dirt_mopar99
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 94
posted August 19, 2005 06:16 AM  
I have raced my Cordoba for 5 yrs and never replaced an A arm.

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bigdozer
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 54
posted August 19, 2005 10:06 PM  
no **** the best car i have ever seen on dirt is a challenger(mis spelled i'am chevy guy)stay with mopar if you have the money it was perfect

bigdozer
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 54
posted August 19, 2005 10:07 PM  
no **** the best car i have ever seen on dirt is a challenger(mis spelled i'am chevy guy)stay with mopar if you have the money it was perfect

Hoosierdaddyracin
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 17
posted August 30, 2005 01:10 PM  
run the malibu its frame is two inches wider= better handling

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