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Nobra14
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 23
posted July 13, 2005 09:33 AM  
Which stock power steering pump is the best for the stock class. sbc 355..Heard some have overheating problem...

redneck racing
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 860
posted July 13, 2005 11:19 AM  
I have about 6 stock units sitting in my shop, they are out of various Chevy cars and trucks and are virtually all the same, aint never run one but will have to in the new ride, my buddy has always run one and has never had a problem, he does drain the power steering fluid and runs tranny fluid in it instead. Eddie

bryanb30
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 243
posted July 13, 2005 05:48 PM  
ive been using an old pump off of a 76 chevy van and it works good, but we use powersteering fluid, the tranny fluid seems to foam up at times

Steve Dupree
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 316
posted July 14, 2005 04:21 AM  
Stock power steering pumps work great. If you want, put a smaller pulley to help turning it so fast, but we dont. We run power steering fluid with about 1/2 pint of Lucas oil treatment. Never have to add fluid no leaks over 100 races on the pump with no problems.

97dirt
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 94
posted July 14, 2005 05:55 AM  
Use tractor hyd. fluid, It'll last a long time

Nobra14
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 23
posted July 14, 2005 12:32 PM  
THANKS.........

petordragon
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 167
posted July 16, 2005 09:59 PM  
I ran on the return side a piece of steel line acrost the radiator and back to help keep it cool

redneck racing
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Total posts: 860
posted July 22, 2005 12:16 AM  
Have also heard of running the the tranny cooler lines into the box instead of using the pump. Eddie

powerglides
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 374
posted July 22, 2005 08:59 AM  
Redneck, I don't think that will work at all as the tranny cooler circuit is only 25psi and power steering is over 500psi.

racer17j
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Total posts: 5390
posted July 22, 2005 05:28 PM  
I tried the running the trannie lines through the pump thing before. It didnt work, it helped the sterring a little but if you had to turn the wheel all the way it would stop the flow.....like pinching off the line. Sometimes, when your running a power steering pump, and you turn it all the way it squeels....thats the flow stopping in the pump....well thats what happened when you run the trannie lines through it. I just played with it in the garage to see and ended up just putting a resevoir on the motor hoop and running the steering lines to it so its just a free flow. Well that cars long gone now.....and I am more then happy to say I am running a pump now and use tranny fluid and it works awesome....no overheating and no foaming.

x factor
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 34
posted July 22, 2005 10:19 PM  
Putting a cooler on it takes care of any foaming problems. It doesn't have to be mounted in front of the radiator either, mine is mounted to the front loop just above the steering box.
Late model Dodge Caravans have a nice 3" by 6" cooler on them.

James Ott
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 131
posted October 25, 2005 07:23 PM  
lots of Fords came with power steering coolers. Any cooler should be plumbed in the return line and not the pressure line.

mark46ew
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 24
posted October 26, 2005 05:58 PM  
I have been running stock pumps for years,bomber class and enduro 200 lap races,with trans fluid,never had a problem with overheating,just make sure belt is running perfectly straight and is tight or it will come off,try driving 200 laps with no power steering-not good!!!

Koolaid
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 82
posted October 26, 2005 08:21 PM  
markew - How much caster did you have in the car for those 200 lap enduros? I don't have much in mine for fear of overheating halfway through an enduro and needing to finish with no powersteering - not a fun thought.

mark46ew
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 24
posted October 27, 2005 04:47 AM  
Koolaid,I am running very little caster,its hard to set up anymore the cars been in 10 enduros and is pretty bent up,i still run alot of camber and 1/8" tow out,By the way oakshade is running an enduro on nov 6th if your interested,there getting low car counts but still pay decent,I got 400.00 for 4th place last month,only had 26 cars show up,The more the merrier..

Koolaid
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 82
posted October 27, 2005 10:27 AM  
Hmm didn't know that about Oakshade - I'm running one at Hartford this weekend - if the car isn't too torn up maybe we might go over to Ohio for that.

That makes sense about not running much caster - I tried to put a bit more caster into my car for a 100 lapper and was blowing out oil by the end. The more caster = the more heat since it's working harder. I'll just stick to my little caster also.

mark46ew
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 24
posted October 27, 2005 03:00 PM  
Good luck at hartford,Watch out for that purple 70 car,looks like he dominates there,He was supposed to show up at oakshade but didnt make it,Whats your car # maybe ill try and go watch this weekend?

Koolaid
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 82
posted October 27, 2005 04:56 PM  
I think you're thinking of Bill May in the #72. Yep he runs good at Hartford and also usually runs really well at paved tracks with a different car. He said his car was broke and he didn't have it together for the last race at Oakshade.

I run the green #41 Monte Carlo. How is Oakshade as far as competition? People beat the snot out of each others cars or run pretty clean? Hartford is pretty laid back since the purses aren't too big.

James Ott
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 131
posted October 27, 2005 09:04 PM  
run a power steering cooler keep the oil cool!

mark46ew
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 24
posted October 28, 2005 04:00 AM  
koolaid,yea #72 sorry,Most of the cars that have been comming are bomber regulars and some rookies that just want to smash up thier car that they threw together in 1 day but with the low car count its pretty easy to stay out of trouble,also they run a jam truck and push the dead cars off during the race,just watch out for the bumpers laying on the track!

dirtyboy58
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 40
posted October 28, 2005 05:38 PM  
take a old raidator hose cut about 6 inches long clamp it to the top of pump use an old filler neck off a fuel tank clamp it to the top adds alot of fluid and works perfect also need to use the gas cap for power steering

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