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DanC
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 29
posted April 01, 2005 01:53 PM  
Just registered here and am brand new to dirt track racing, I have acquired a wissota super stock car but would like to trade it for a pure stock as I think that would be a better route for me right now. have done alittle research and have some questions...
-the GM metrics seem to be the way to go, which exact years, models are considered metrics?
-our local rules say no headers and no center dump manifolds, are there any SBC exhaust manifolds better than the others?
-no racing tires, what brand / size of street tire would be good on a pure stock?
-what other pure stock tips and tricks are useful for a total beginner?
Thanks!

Raceman17
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 165
posted April 01, 2005 02:10 PM  
Metric cars run from 78 to about 88 I think. They include monte carlo, grand prixs, regals, cutlas and maybe more. That s just what I know. Probably a exhaust manifold from a 350 would be better than ones from a 305.
Hope that helps

wetwolfone
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 51
posted April 01, 2005 02:15 PM  
78 to 86 are metrics. 90's pickups have big exhaust manifolds. Cooper Cobras are a good tire, but try to get some different brands so you have more options for stagger. Good idea starting in a pure stock instead of a super. I'm a beginner too so I don't have a lot of tips. One thing I would do is find someone with scales and scale your car, that will tell you a lot. Take a lot of notes and above all have fun!

51racing
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 138
posted April 01, 2005 02:16 PM  
I think you're probably making a good choice, starting with a pure stock instead of a super.
The metric cars are '78(or '79 I can't remember) GM midsize cars. Monte Carlo, Cultass, Regal, Grand Prix and Malibu up till '88 I believe.
From what I've heard, the newer style truck manifolds are the better ones, early 90's is what I've heard. I run the over the plug style, but from a car and I guess I'm pretty happy with those.
Lot's of people seem to like Cooper Cobra's or Firestones seem popular too. I would see what others are running locally and think about doing the same. Myself, I run whatever the junkyard happens to have at the time I pick mine up! As for size, that depends on gearing, track size etc.
As far as other tips, just make sure you have a safe car, good safety equipment etc. and go out and have fun. Keep your ears open to what others have for tips and you'll learn alot your first year.

shadowsarge
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 60
posted April 01, 2005 03:25 PM  
Talk to the guys that race your class at your local track. You'll find that most racers are willing to help someone new. I've met some really great people since I bought my car. They,ve helped with set-up, scaling, donated parts etc. Take some time to do some searches on this forum, you'll be suprised how much you can learn.
And like everyone else has said, Have fun. Thats what it's all about.

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DanC
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 29
posted April 02, 2005 07:23 AM  
Had an offer to possibly trade my super stock for a pure stock Buick, havent got a whole lot of details yet but I think he said it was an '85, so I am assuming it would probably be Buicks "metric" model?? I assume that is the same as all the GM metrics?? My biggest concern is the engine, he said it threw a rod. How do the buicks compare cost wise to the SBC? That is really why I want an SBC is they are so cheap to build. He said he had a good olds motor, would the olds fit in the buick? I assume they would be BOP?? My experience all lies with SBC's, any reason I should fear the BOP stuff?? Thanks-

wetwolfone
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 51
posted April 02, 2005 07:47 AM  
Go with the Chevy motor.

racenmotorsports
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 169
posted April 02, 2005 08:46 AM  
Go SBC, the other stuff is too expensive. Plus there's a ton of SBC stuff out there.

AtomicPunk
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 130
posted April 02, 2005 09:43 AM  
Most rules state "make to make" as far as engines go. So go with the Chevy. All models and all years of the metrics are dang near identical except bodies, and I have found even some of those are inerchangeable.

racer17j
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 5390
posted April 02, 2005 12:12 PM  
put a chevyin it don't waist your time with the heavy money pits that you get in the other gm models . that is a metric. metrics are 78-88 monte,regal,malibu,cutlas,grand prix,grand am. there are small differences in the years but other wise like they said it's just body style thats different the older before 81 cars had smaller bearings in the spindles and pinion but everything else is the same you can also use s-10 suspention parts as well if need be. as far as something fitting you can make any motor pretty much fit in anything gm motor will fit in any gm rear wheel drive car

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