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Raceman17
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 165
posted March 31, 2005 08:28 AM  
Hey! I have a metric car with the Speedway motors "stock appearing" rear springs. (PIG TAILS ON BOTH ENDS). THe problem is that my ride height in the rear is about 11 inches. What can I do get the car down lower. I have to have the stock appearing springs with pigtails on both ends. What are ya'll doing to lower the car in the rear using the stock appearing springs?
Thanks

juni
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posted March 31, 2005 11:57 AM  
Buy some new springs from day motorsports or afco, they are shorter then speedways .The only other thing would be cut the spring mounts out on top and sink them in the floor deeper and that probally won't be legal and is to much trouble.

Raceman17
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posted March 31, 2005 12:12 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by juni:
Buy some new springs from day motorsports or afco, they are shorter then speedways .The only other thing would be cut the spring mounts out on top and sink them in the floor deeper and that probally won't be legal and is to much trouble.

So these springs have pigtails on both ends?

Raceman17
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posted March 31, 2005 01:29 PM  
I checked with both companies. All they offer is 14" springs. These are the same ones I have. Any more suggestions?

wetwolfone
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 51
posted March 31, 2005 01:37 PM  
I thought we were the only ones with that goofy rule. Landrum makes 13" double pigtails and yes they are expensive. Maybe, as a last resort, a person could take a lighter spring and heat it so it sags (and increases rate). Or maybe it would be better to just run a single pigtail of the correct height regardless of the rules. If anyone has any better ideas, I'd like to hear them too.

Raceman17
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posted March 31, 2005 01:49 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by wetwolfone:
I thought we were the only ones with that goofy rule. Landrum makes 13" double pigtails and yes they are expensive. Maybe, as a last resort, a person could take a lighter spring and heat it so it sags (and increases rate). Or maybe it would be better to just run a single pigtail of the correct height regardless of the rules. If anyone has any better ideas, I'd like to hear them too.


I was thinking about heating up a spring and dropping it down to get the frame lower. After I did that, I was going to retest the spring and see how much the spring rate changed. Ive gotta do something, My car looks like a drad car. Low in the front and tall in the rear.
Later

supwitchew
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posted March 31, 2005 08:46 PM  
If you heat up a double pigtail spring, keep in mind that you might actually make it too short. It's very touchy. From what I've seen, it may not want to sit tight in the spring pocket...at least for the Chevy's I've seen. My Torino didn't have any problems.

racingfool1
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 36
posted March 31, 2005 08:52 PM  
Check your local u pull it wrecking yards. I had some years ago that I believe came out of the rear of a Vega. They actually worked very well, built the car for a friend that raced for 3 nights. Finished 1 second, 1 first and 1 third in that order. then sold the car and it was track champ the following year. But look at anything coil spring, you might be surprised with what you can find. Also try "good" parts stores, the back of the Moog catalog has the free heights, end types and overall diameter as well as poundage listed by part number. Takes a competent parts person so good luck there.

iowatoolman
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Total posts: 369
posted March 31, 2005 10:55 PM  
remember that if you shorten the spring height that you will have to make something to help keep the spring into place

my springs are 13" tall and i welded a piece of roll bar tubing in the top bucket to keep it in place, incase of the unexpected

drive hard or drive home

Whitelightning
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posted April 01, 2005 04:35 AM  
I tried em once they are just too tall

Speedway65
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posted April 01, 2005 08:29 AM  
I take offence to the competent parts person remark!

[This message has been edited by Speedway65 (edited April 01, 2005).]

Shess71
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 15
posted April 02, 2005 05:32 PM  
EBAY they have it all i bought 6 hypercoils race spring for $ 51.06 and that includes shipping you can't beat the prices on EBAY

Eljojo
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Total posts: 968
posted April 02, 2005 05:58 PM  
I have heated several springs to get ride height when our rules didn't allow weight jacks. I would put them in a five gallon bucket and fill it with water up to the point where I was wanting to "bend" it. I'd heat that sopt on the spring and then put it into a vise and clamp it until it bent, then put the unheated end back into the bucket of water. Allow the spring to cool without splashing water on the heated area. Good luck!

sideways
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Total posts: 715
posted April 02, 2005 06:09 PM  
I have actually taken a pig tail spring that was to long and that I wanted stiffer and cut to length and heated it up and bent a pig tail back in it.Wow what a lot of work.(mainly did it to see if I could funny like that lol).

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