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Raceman17
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 165
posted March 19, 2005 04:49 PM  
Hello, I have another question. I race a 80's monte carlo on a banked 3/8 mile track. When I drive into the corner, I have to yank the wheel hard to the left to get the car to break loose in the rear. Is this correct or, if the car was set up correctly, if I drove into the corner the rear would naturally want to break loose. How should it be?
Thanks

sc1 racing
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 419
posted March 19, 2005 06:31 PM  
most of this reflects on your driving style..

how are you entering turn? are you using brakes? running in high? slinging it sideways isnt any faster. but the pics look awesome..

racin78p
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Total posts: 333
posted March 19, 2005 07:24 PM  
I would never set up a car to automatically break loose in the turns simply by turning the wheel by itself. What happens if you DON'T want it to break loose? Like avoid a wreck?

A short track like yours, if you don't have it on already, and the rules allow you to use it, then quick steer is an option for you. It takes less work to turn the car with one. Takes getting used to! I run a 1.5, but may get a 2 to 1 soon. I run a 4/10 and I could use it.

As sc 1 racing posted, your driving style is really everything. If you have to drive the car hard into the corners, and then rack it left hard and tap the gas to pitch it, then okay. What you should be more concerned with is lap times. Drive it different ways, with different set-ups, and have a partner time you. Whichever way gives you the faster times, then it is obvious what you should run. The exception to this is if it is just too much for you to handle and have fun with (like having to yank the wheel TOO hard TOO fast, ect.)

I hope your track has practice days/times. Get out there and try different things. Record them so you will have future references. Try running low, then the middle and on top. There usually is a big difference in how the car reacts/drives depending on where on the track you are running. Remember when you make a set-up change to try all lines on the track, not just one or two. You might be surprised. A set-up that stinks down low may make you FLY on the top (good to know if everyone is running low on that night!).

Personally, I drive my car very hard into the corners, a quick snap of the wheel to the left and a tap (at least) on the throttle to get it sideways and concentrate on powering through the next turn and into the straights. I never touch the brakes, unless there is a wreck, caution, or the race is over.

Someone posted here awhile back that "I never lost a race. Time just ran out before I got to the front". I love that. Race on.

Oh one more thing. Not everyone does this, and I kind of hate to give out a driving secret of mine (not that NO ONE has ever done this or still doesn't). Just before I get to the entry of a turn I look all the way through that turn and the next, and into the coming straight. Then I glance for a split second on the turn I am just getting into, get the car sideways, and then look ALL the way through the next turn and concentrate on the straight coming up. I am one heck of a lot smoother and faster doing this. Where you are looking to is where you will go. No big secret really, but I know of so many drivers who just don't do this and they are real squirrles in the corners, and have more wrecks than most other drivers. They don't see trouble up ahead.

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racin78p
if it ain't fun, then don't run

Raceman17
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 165
posted March 19, 2005 08:14 PM  
I appreciate ALL the help you guys are giving me. I trashed my car last week so I am building a new one. I got the cage put in it today and all i have left to do is paint the front frames (I HATE GREASEY FRAMES) and reassmeble the front syspension and drop the motor and tranny in.
Im considering purchasing a set of scales so I can see what the car is actualy doing when I make the small changes to air pressure and using shims. Racin78p I appriecate the tip. I try my hardest like you said to look past those hood pins. I do this for the reason of dodging wrecks but it makes sense to go ahead and visualize a line your gonna run. Like I said, I appreciate the help.
Later

petordragon
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 167
posted March 21, 2005 09:17 AM  
details race man details lets hear em.

Raceman17
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 165
posted March 21, 2005 02:54 PM  
Well it all started when I decided to go the the rac track by myself. My gf did not go to the track with me a few years ago and yes, I trashed my first one. But anyways, We were out there racing at about 4 PM on saturday afternoon. The track was dusty and the sun was in my eyes coming out of turn four. Well I got in the high grove and sure enough that sun and dust complety blinded me. Well the next thing I know, I drove the car right into the wall. The impact bent the frame all the way back where the transmission mount is. The front frame horn was sitting at a 45 degree angle and the radiator was twisted pretty bad.
So to make a long story short, I decided to start over with a new car so thats where Im at. Should be back in two weeks.
Later

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