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supwitchew
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 122
posted March 17, 2005 06:42 PM  
After searching for methods of painting, I noticed that there is not much talk about primer. I always have and I'm wondering if it's worth it or if I'm throwing money down the drain. So that is my question. To primer, or not to primer?

speedwrench
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 16
posted March 17, 2005 07:15 PM  

It's lighter without but sometimes the paint doesn't grip too good and will peel .that's mostly what the primer does , help the paint to stay stuck. Lot's of times I have used a sand blaster set on low with a #5 media without primer and it is rough enough for the paint to stick good but not so much that a thin coat wouldn't shine good



ryan
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 776
posted March 17, 2005 08:23 PM  
We have always used primer with good results, we just buy implement stuff thinned with medium evaportating reducer from napa.

Raceman17
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 165
posted March 17, 2005 10:06 PM  
I have always painted my cars with rustoleum brand paint (the kind you get in the quarts at walmart) I have never had any problem appling this paint directly over the factory original paint. Ive never used primer and the results look great.
Later

Steve Dupree
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 316
posted March 18, 2005 04:26 AM  
Hey well we own a body shop and really if you want to use a primer use what they call a primer sealer. Primer does not help the paint stick it just cover scratches and bare metal. Dupont makes a sealer ready to shoot for 30.00 a qaurt and a qaurt is plenty if you know how to paint. The sealer no. is 1986s velvaseal. shoot sealer and paint is ready to tack and shoot in 30 minutes after sealer is shot. There are a few pics of are last 2 year cars on geminikid1 on yahoo profiles. Thanks and hopes this helps.

I-B-RACIN
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 132
posted March 18, 2005 08:38 PM  
I to would reccomend primer sealer makes paint cover better if going to a lighter color

Steve Dupree
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 316
posted March 19, 2005 04:26 AM  
Painting a car is like building a motor start at the bottom. Sealer will save you money on the rest of materials even if you use trackter paint. Better cover,more shine, and better on peeling and chipping. Nason is a good cheap paint usually paint a whole car for about 125.00 with sealer and hardner. Oh the sealer is a nonsanding sealer simply let it dry 30 minutes the tack it and shoot it. Now lets go racing lol Steve Dupree

racin78p
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 333
posted March 19, 2005 08:04 PM  
You don't necessarily need primer or sealer if your do not have any bare metal spots, and if the original paint on the body is in good shape, i.e. no peeling, de-laminating, severely faded, clear coat degraded, ect. I have been painting cars for about 31 years, have been working in the autobody refinishing career field for 21 years. All that doesn't mean poo-poo really, except to say that I would rather go the extra mile and do the job right. Primer, a primer serfacer (sealer) before top coating and then the clear. Yes, a two stage paint job.

But after my first season racing, and all the work done to get the professional paint job I will say this. To save money, but still have a good looking race car get a good quality enamel paint and appropriate reducer (don't use lacquer thinner, it will end up looking dull after it dries) and shoot the thing. This is the option for those who do not have a buddy or sponsor who owns/works a paint and body shop and can cut you a deal. Yes, the better the products used and job done, will last or hold up longer, but we drive race cars and they get BANGED UP pretty bad. What I guess I am saying, for most of us anyway, is do you want better pistons in your engine, or the best paint job, taking into consideration we all have a limited budget and how much we can spend?

That said, I will always use the best paint material and products because it is free! My boss at a local car dealership sponsors my car. Race on.

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ohiodirt
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 68
posted March 20, 2005 03:58 PM  
I used a cheap sealer from the local body shop supplier. I bought one quart and just put a light coat on over the previous owners paint (after a thorough sanding). I then sprayed with TSC store bought tractor paint. It looks great, holds up well, and is easy to repair after I tear it up.

Stevei2i0
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 54
posted March 20, 2005 06:45 PM  
I used Rustoleum to paint both My cars, with no primer, or sealer. Ive had no problems with either cars paint. $6.75 a qrt at Wal-Mart. disposable brushes.$1.50 for three.

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