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crc1124
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posted February 15, 2005 08:53 PM  
Our track is starting up a hobby stock class this year since our street stocks have gotten so far out of hand. People are already arguing over the rules. One rule states " stock 350. May be bored 30 over to clean up only. No aftermarket parts."
Now I've heard that there are 2 guys building 383's to run in this class. They say that the block is a stock 350 block. There isn't any cubic inch rule so they don't consider it cheating. They haven't stated a claim rule but are now considering it. Possibly a $600.00 claim. Do they think that will really solve anything? What do you guys think? Is this considered cheating. And there is no vaccum rule so how do they enforce stock cams?

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racer17j
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posted February 15, 2005 10:27 PM  
Some of our tracks here have claims and it does nothing to control spending or costs. Our claim is $450 and the only claims we have is to tick people off rather than to get the engine. Look at IMCA mods, small claim price but those guys spend alot of money on engines. We have 383's, 406's and 355's that all win races. But in your case wouldn't a 383 require aftermarket pistons therefore be illegal per the no aftermarket parts rule? Racers are by nature their own worst enemy in regards to spending so a few is gonna do whatever it takes and make it tough on the rest. Hope it works out for you.

crc1124
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posted February 16, 2005 06:33 PM  
I thought about dropping down to that class but like you said we are our own worst enemy. I've already built my car up for the street stock and would have to build another car, which is out of the question ( I'm married,lol!). My wife loves racin' so I'm lucky I have the money to spend that I have. She's letting me use a nice chunk out of our tax refund for the car!
P.S. I really like those rules 17j, is there a web link I can forward to the track promoter?

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racer17j
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posted February 16, 2005 07:33 PM  
Our local track just added the Hobby class and got rid of the cruisers. $500 claim rule, and the claimed person can get the claimers car with $200. All safety devices that have been installed can be removed (racing seat, quick release steering wheel, safety belts, fuel cell) when claimed. Just about everything must remain stock, your average rules I'd say. Funny, the track put this class in to allow new and old race nuts to get a car on the track CHEAP!!! It wasn't a day after the announcement of the class that people were already wanting to know if they could do this and add that, ect. Complaining about the claim rule. You name it. Yes, racers are their own worst enemy in these cases. What can a guy say?

Race on.

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petordragon
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posted February 17, 2005 02:39 PM  
how is a 383 stroker a stock 350? A stock 350 does not have a 400 crank. Alot of tracks say if you want to go faster move up.

racin78p
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posted February 18, 2005 02:41 AM  
Petro we know that a stock 350 can be used to put together a 383 stroker (400 crank). The guys mentioned at the beginning of this post are definetly cheating. They are finding a way around or through the rules to get an advantage. I bet that that rule just might get massaged or clarified soon after the season starts up and people start complaining. How's your ride coming along?

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crc1124
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posted February 19, 2005 01:31 PM  
Hey guys thanks for all the feedback. I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees this way. Some people always try to push the limits to get an advantage. How much fun is to race and win against people who don't even have a chance? The best part of winning is knowing you beat guys as good or better than you. Now that's an accompishment in my eyes. That's what all this hard work is all about.

petordragon
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posted February 21, 2005 01:04 PM  
cars comming along good bout got all bugs worked out fixing to go tear up the field soon. as far as the "stock 350's" go we have a cry baby rule you put up $200 make your gripe vehicle gets teched if your wrong you lost $200 if your right you get your $200 back they get fined lose points for that day and any winnings 2 week suspension. Seriel numbers get recorded and sent to 4 other tracks. Guess this track must of had a simmilar prob at one time.

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crc1124
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posted February 21, 2005 07:40 PM  
This is a fun track but they are loose on enforcing the rules. They have their favorites. I get along with everybody pretty much. Last year the flag man disagreed with a call the promotor made (giving someone his spot back even though he caused the caution)and got so mad he threw all the flags out on the track and quit! That was hilarious!

racin78p
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posted February 22, 2005 08:24 AM  
Keep cranking Petro! You are going to have a blast for sure. One word of advice: race the TRACK, not the competition. There is a difference.

We have a protest rule also. $100 and state in writing within 5 minutes after the main what your protest is and on who. If you're not right, out a "C" note. I've seen protests happen, and usually that person looses their money. If your protest is validated, the protested person forfeits all money/points for the night and gets a fix-it-ticket and must make appropriate changes before returning to race on that track again. I like the idea of four tracks getting the "bad boy" info!!! That would get alot of the local racers here to get within the rules! Cool.

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