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mod15racing
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 12
posted February 06, 2005 07:28 PM  
We are building a bomber/street stock type car. Have to run shock's that mount in factory location. It is a GM metric chassis will weigh in just over 3,000 will be on a dirt track 1/3 mile med bank. What is the best shock combination for this car. And part number's to look for. thank's for any help

wrenchturner10
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 80
posted February 06, 2005 08:06 PM  
buy bilstien street stock shocks, they are about $60 each, but the best shock for that application

hobby10k
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 226
posted February 06, 2005 08:06 PM  
GO to QA-1 shocks, they have awsome stock mount shocks now. they have quick up for the RF and tie down for the LR. I ordered mine directly from QA-1 but www.speedwaymotors.com
has them

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racin78p
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 333
posted February 08, 2005 03:23 AM  
Keep in mind the track you are going to run at. Dry slick or tacky makes a big difference in what shock you really need. Call up Bilstein or QA-1 and talk with an "expert" if you are not sure what to get.

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dirty58
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 115
posted February 08, 2005 01:34 PM  
pro shocks offer adjustable shocks for stock mounts

racer17j
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posted February 08, 2005 04:17 PM  
Since the PRO adjustables were brought up maybe you can both give your reasons for liking and disliking them. Been curious about them.

racer17j
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posted February 08, 2005 07:46 PM  
I bought the adjustable PRO shocks for our pure stock,thinking it was away of making some adjustments as needed.It was the worst mistake we made...there are so many diffrent better shocks out there for less money.Sometime trying to get an edge like trying to adjust a pure stock with shocks makes you take a step back wards.It is hard to find the 'right' adjustment as it has many hard to tell settings.Could not tell after awhile what was firm...medium..soft etc.Got extremely confuseing.I noticed the rear shocks were bottoming out(tattle-tail sliders how how much shocks travel)The weight transfer at the end of of the season got so bad the car pushed and was almost undriveable.The lesson I learned was dont get side tracked on stock mount shocks with adjustable gimicks.....buy the best it pays off in the long run.Will be installing Bilistens soon!Any body want to play with these adjustables...there is only one season on them.....can buy them real cheap from me.

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blanep
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posted February 09, 2005 04:19 PM  
Those ends that PRO is selling now is definately something I've been keeping in mind 17j. Opens up a whole new world of possibilities for fine tuning.

racer17j
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posted February 09, 2005 05:15 PM  
I hear ya. Our shock rules originally stated steel shocks in stock location so alot of guys were running racing shocks. In trying to do away with that the track restated the rules and now they read:
Shocks stock location and in stock mounts. 1 shock per wheel. No coil-overs. No load levelers. No air shocks. Steel body shocks only. NO heimens shocks!

Well, that leaves the door wide open for running non-welded bearing end racing shocks with these new ends that PRO has, IMHO.

My only shock use before has been the stock mount Bilsteins and QA1. Couldn't really tell the difference.

dirty58
Dirt Maniac

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posted February 09, 2005 07:20 PM  
i have ran pro shocks a couple of years never had a prblem and get them for about 30 bucks

petordragon
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posted February 10, 2005 06:53 PM  
OK with all this in mind. wich axles do you want a soft shock on and wich axle a firm shock. And do you want a firm or soft shock for tacky or dry slick?

petordragon
Dirt Maniac

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posted February 11, 2005 06:34 AM  
in other words do I want different shock rates for seperate axles or is it a track condition set up?

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6pack
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 171
posted February 11, 2005 06:37 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by dirty58:
i have ran pro shocks a couple of years never had a prblem and get them for about 30 bucks

Where do you get the Pro's for $30?


dirty58
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 115
posted February 12, 2005 07:41 PM  
where ya located 6pack

mrteeshot
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Total posts: 127
posted February 12, 2005 08:05 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by 6pack:
Where do you get the Pro's for $30?


ditto ???

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dirty58
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 115
posted February 13, 2005 02:10 PM  
ck local hot rod shops not the race shops you can also find them mail order their usally a sales gimmick to catch your attention the most ive ever paid is less than forty

wrenchturner10
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 80
posted February 13, 2005 02:43 PM  
One thing to keep in mind when buying shocks for the heavy cars is that you will not have a quick response to the different valving on the shock and we don't have the horsepower to pull the car up when coming of the corner. All the shock does is dampen the bounce, so all you are looking for is dampening effect.

highside2020
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posted March 08, 2005 11:46 PM           send a private message to wrenchturner10   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
if you call afco they can make you a stock mount shock steel body with what ever valving you want. It only cost me an extra 20 dollars each shock to have 5 shocks with the valving i need to tune the rear of the car. Yes it may have cost more. Yes did i read in to the rules and get in to a gray area . Yes i am legal. Yes someone in your area is doing the same thing. Yes my car is also up front. Beware were you wont fork out the extra cash to run up front guys like me have read though the rule book and talk to the guys making the stuff not the ones sellin the stuff and have gotten an edge on those who dont want to do there homework. O and the guys name is Eric Saffel feel free to call him at american fabrocation company and pick his brain cause i have.
quote:
Originally posted by blanep:
I hear ya. Our shock rules originally stated steel shocks in stock location so alot of guys were running racing shocks. In trying to do away with that the track restated the rules and now they read:
Shocks stock location and in stock mounts. 1 shock per wheel. No coil-overs. No load levelers. No air shocks. Steel body shocks only. NO heimens shocks!

Well, that leaves the door wide open for running non-welded bearing end racing shocks with these new ends that PRO has, IMHO.

My only shock use before has been the stock mount Bilsteins and QA1. Couldn't really tell the difference.



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