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shifter
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 16
posted December 04, 2004 09:46 PM  
The only racing I've ever done is drag racing. I want to get started running at a local dirt track in the cruiser class(bomber). I have an 80 Malibu that is stock suspension. I'm taking the motor out and replacing it with an old motor that I pulled out a truck since they have a claimer rule.(500.00) I'm going to use the th350 trans,and the car has 4.56 gears. The class rules say I can't run any bigger than 7" wide dot tires, but say nothing about the height of the tire. I'll admit I don't know how to setup a car for a 3/8 mile dirt track, but I'm guessing that a tall tire would roll over alot, causing ill handling. What would be a good starting setup that I could use so I can go have fun and compete.
Oh ya, the motor has to stock w/ 1 4 barrel carb, stock exh. manifolds, and has to pull 16" of vaccum. Also the car has a manual steering box, will that work, or should I put the power steering back on.
Thanks for any help.
Shifter.

racer17j
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 5390
posted December 05, 2004 12:11 AM  
I appreciate the info. I'm new to the whole circle track thing, but I'm very excited about next year. I have a 12 bolt in the car now, but a friend of mine has a 7.5 w/ a 4.10 in it. I'll keep checking here and reading some of the articles and maybe I'll learn a thing or two. But if I ask dumb questions, don't laugh. My dad told me the dumbest question in the world, is the one thats never asked. Saying, if you don't ask you won't learn.[IMG]
Thanks racer17j, Shifter!!

waltonjr1
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 516
posted December 05, 2004 05:04 AM  
Whatever you do, dont replace that 12 bolt with a 7.5 ,get the gears for the 12 bolt.

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racer17j
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 5390
posted December 05, 2004 10:23 AM  
Shifter, Welcome to dirt track racing. This forum is full of information and a LOT of helpful people on here. I myself crossed over from the drag racing world. Occasionally I go back and help out my best friends drag car, when I'm not racing. But dirt circle track racing is a BLAST!! And I'm staying. A lot of us run metric G.M. cars early to mid 80's. Our springs range from: rf 1200 to 1000, lf 900 to 1000, rr 175 to 225, lr 250 to 275. That should put you in the ballpark on springs, if your allowed to run racing springs. We run a 3/8 semi banked track.

shifter
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 16
posted December 06, 2004 02:02 AM  
I'm so glad for all the nice people that are willing to help with all of thier info. that they've aquired over the years. How do I get to the User pics section, everytime I click on it, it brings me to this section. I guess I'm going to need a notebook to keep all of the info that I aquire from all of you.
Thanks,,,,Shifter.

RACER19S
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 27
posted December 06, 2004 11:36 AM  
Top left corner, Click on Menu and alot of questions will be answered, as well as setup sheets and videos. Remember "smooth is fast" on the dirt. Good luck

Eljojo
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 968
posted December 11, 2004 06:07 AM  
Thanks Jammin!

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Istock66
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posted December 11, 2004 07:37 AM           send a private message to Eljojo   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
Why would you guys tell him to keep the 12 bolt?

The axles arent any stronger for circle track racing. And he could sell the rearend for enough to buy a nine inch if the rules allowed or buy a racing rr axle for a 10 bolt and a few other needed racing parts.

I wouldnt be gearing to turn any stock motor pulled from a car over 55-5800 max, it probably wont last long at that either. Stock rod bolts simply can not take circle track racing.

stockcar5
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 578
posted December 11, 2004 08:13 AM  
you'll be fine with the 12 bolt. they have 30 spline axles and they are tough enough. better than fords 28 spline or the 7.5s 27 spline. i would run c clip eliminators if i were you though.

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Istock66
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posted December 11, 2004 09:32 AM           send a private message to stockcar5   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
Splines have nothing to do with gm 10 and 12 bolt axles being the same out by the wheel where they break.


LUBEGUY07
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 302
posted December 11, 2004 01:42 PM  
i think the reason the are telling him to keep the 12 bolt is so he can run his tranny in drive, the 12 bolts have a lot better gear selection than the 7.5 does. But i have been running a 7.5 rearend for 4 years with no troubles, but i also have 2 moser axels in it.

adam1060
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 4
posted December 11, 2004 02:13 PM  
shifter i have a ford 9in. in my garage out of a pickup. it is a 5lug axle, bolt in. would you like to buy it!!!!! needs to be rebuilt

shifter
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 16
posted December 12, 2004 10:47 AM  
I'll just come out and put that nine inch in my car since that is where my car is too.

thomas66
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 15
posted December 24, 2004 11:56 AM  
what would be the best way to get started

racer17j
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 5390
posted May 04, 2005 05:05 PM  
HEY ON TIRES GO TO WAL-MART TELL THEM THEY ARE FOR YOUR STREET CAR AND GET THEM WARRANTIED, DON'T TELL THEM THEY ARE FOR A RACE CAR. I DON'T LIKE TO BE DIS HONEST BUT STARTING OUT A RACER NEEDS ALL THE HELP HE CAN GET, YOU'LL FIND OUT. HOPE I DIDN'T MAKE ANYONE MAD.

racer17j
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 5390
posted May 04, 2005 07:05 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by gomezracing53:
what would be the best way to get started


Go to your track,,,with rules in hand...ask quetsions..stay away from guys with attitudes..they will just lie to you. Take notes..watch and sometimes just be a fly on the wall

dirt_mopar99
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 94
posted May 10, 2005 10:20 PM  
If your car isn't ready, go to the track and see if you can pit for someone for a few nights. Being in the pits will allow you to observre what people are doing to run well.

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