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Author Topic:   did you build or buy?
djsamson
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 107
posted July 27, 2004 06:53 PM  
did you buy parts and build your car, or buy it? Also, how much did it cost.

Footlead
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 24
posted July 27, 2004 08:19 PM  
I have done both,,,,and I can tell you that it is much cheaper to buy one that someone wants to get rid of or wants out of racing. Just look it over and make sure that it is pretty sound then you can set it up and fix things to your liking.When you do it all yourself,,,it is A LOT OF WORK and verrrrry time consuming.

racer17j
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 5390
posted July 27, 2004 08:40 PM  
The car I'm running now I bought as a rolling body/chassis with a cage. It still took me 2 1/2 years to completely get it done. I have about $7000.00 invested so far and I still see things I would like to upgrade. Our class is supposed to be affordable but if you want to keep up with the winners you have to spend the money! If you build it yourself you know exactly what you have. If I could have had the money upfront I definitely would have bought a car that had already been built.

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juni
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 184
posted July 28, 2004 10:19 AM  
I build my own . But if you are starting out with nothing buy one that is all there first or at least rolling . Price for a new one turn key around 6000 to 7000 . Also make sure if you buy a used one buy it off the track or you better know you can trust the seller .

powerglides
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 374
posted July 29, 2004 06:20 AM  
Buy your first car. Unless you are so anal like me and can't leave things alone. Buying your first car will put you light years ahead of the game. Ask a trusted person to give you his opinion of car. And a winning car is not nearly as important as a well built car in this class.

WesternAuto17
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 569
posted July 29, 2004 07:39 AM  
I bought my first car and built my second. I felt like I wasted a lot of time and money chasing speed in the first car that just wasn't there.

If you do buy a first car, don't be like me. Make sure its a good, resonably fast car. A bad car will teach you all kinds of bad habits. The only used race cars I would buy would either be from a friend or fresh off the race track. When I sold my first car, I swapped everything of any value off of it and replaced it with the stuff I didn't want anymore.

Hope this helps.........

iowatoolman
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 369
posted July 30, 2004 12:28 AM  

 
it depends on how much you like to tinker and fabricate or if you just want to get out there and race. both sides have pros and cons but i built both my first and second and have fun doing it but it all takes money i have way to much money in my car but don't tell my wife jk she loves going to the track and rooting me on.

it also depends on how you like your stuff i have a $500 gauge set.most guys in my class don't have that in there whole car. of course they are running junk too!!

drive hard or drive home

waltonjr1
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 516
posted July 30, 2004 01:33 PM  

 
Its way cheaper to buy one built, But I like to know every nut and bolt on my car. I have about 8,000 in this one.

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cobb
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 131
posted July 30, 2004 05:22 PM  
i like to buy a car thats about half built...roller with some some body on it. but i enjoy building things in general

racin2much
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 46
posted August 06, 2004 10:20 AM  
I think it depends on alot of variables. As was mentioned buy the car at the track to make sure you are getting the race stuff. But most cars are sold for reason that they know and you never will. I have seen some cheap used cars that by the time we made them competitive you could have built one cheaper. I guess the answer dpends on your knowledge and ability. If you can, I would build one, but if that is not feasible for you, then buyng one is the best bet.

JRB13
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 80
posted August 07, 2004 08:45 PM  
THIS IS MY FIRST YEAR TO RACE AND I BUILT MY CAR FROM JUST A GUTTED OUT MONTE CARLO IT TOOK ME AND A BUDDY ABOUT 2 YEARS TO COMPLETE. MY ADVISE IS TO GO TO THE TRACK AND TRY TO FIND SOMEONE WHO MAYBE WRECKED A CAR AND IS TRYIN TO SELL THE PARTS OFF IT AND IS WILLING TO HELP YOU OUT DURING THE BUILDING PROCESS. IT WILL SAVE YOU ALOT OF MONEY AND TIME. THERE IS A PICTURE OF MY CAR UNDER THE STREET/HOBBY SECTION THAT MY SISTER POSTED UNDER CHECK IT OUT I HAVE AROUND 4,000 IN IT AND HAS TOP 3 POTENTIAL EVERY WEEK. GOOD LUCK AND HAVE FUN.

racerguy500
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 168
posted August 08, 2004 09:26 AM  
My first one I bought running and at the track. After that I have built them all (about a dozen or so). My current car has taken one year and is ready minus a power steering pump. I have less than $1000 in it. WAY less. But to build a new one now that I have all the goodies would cost me about $300. To build one like mine would be about $4000 or better. It can be done very cheap but it takes more time that way. Buying a used car is a great deal if you get all the stuff, fuel cell, seat, gauges, springs and shocks, etc. Buy always buy it at the track to make sure you get what they raced with. Most guys swap springs and things and give you the old worn out stuff that doesn't work and you are left trying to make the car hook up. My best advice would be do both if possible. Buy a cheap used roller to get all the goodies, run it a few times at least to get the hang of things, then transfer the good stuff to the new car.

djsamson
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 107
posted August 11, 2004 08:40 AM  
Jrb,
nice car, but how did you find sponsors when you are a beginner?

wenee9w
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 11
posted August 17, 2004 12:47 PM  
I bought the first,then redid the first one and just ended up redoing it again.I am thinking I will build the next one.

rblracer
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 25
posted August 18, 2004 06:38 PM  
Built my first one with the help of some good friends, wished I would have bought while I was building, and wouldn't trade for the world now that its finished!!! If I told you how much I spent you would laugh or quit right now, one of the two!

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joetaylor
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 640
posted August 19, 2004 08:38 PM  
walton that is very sharp love the paint

I built my car with no plans just hanging arround all the outher cars picking up things as I went and ofcoarse I hadto make changes as I want along some regrets but the main thing to rember is it is all metal and it can be cut and welded and I will add this bulding your first one will 5 and dime you to death but the second one won't be that bad good luck

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lordantonio
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 13
posted August 20, 2004 12:46 PM  
Best option: buy from someone who is selling the car turn-key or close to it. less work, less money, easier all the way around unless you buy a junk car.

Next best: Go to a chassis builder and get a roller. It's still a lot of work find tuning the chassis, putting in gaugues, etc. etc, but with a new car you know everything's straight and you can do things right the first time. we bought ours for about $1200 or so - had enough equipment installed to make it worth it

unless you're a pro, dont try to build a car from the ground up because you're bound to screw something up that you don't know about.

waltonjr1
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 516
posted August 22, 2004 01:26 AM  
Thanks Joe, the blue is vinyl.

odb93
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 537
posted August 22, 2004 11:31 AM  
Buy your first then build the second.

I am seeing the end of the second season since I started buildign mine. 1k's of dollars later and lots of time later, we should have waited and bought one.

But once we are finished, everything will be like I want it.

I regret not buying the first one and racing all last year and all year this year.

Scoot
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 517
posted August 23, 2004 10:43 AM  
My opinion is to go to a chassis builder and pay to have him build it for your track rules. I wish I would have done that, I would have saved alot of money on my car. If you start new you'll know what you have. Make sure you are going to be able to afford to race also. It takes alot of money and time.

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tech355
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 73
posted August 24, 2004 12:46 PM  
I have bought 4 cars in 10 seasons and have plenty of parts.I would like to build one but I do everything myself and have no help here at home.

firebird1964
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 88
posted August 24, 2004 06:15 PM  
I built my first one from a 77 monte I bought for $155, it took me only 6 months and about $2000 to get it finished. You can see photo at http://www.rpmnet.com/racerpages/racerpage.cfm?DriverID=4088
Building my second one from a 85 monte and going to make this one even better than the first. I have been a auto tech for 18 yrs. but never did any racing before, but got the fever for it now and there is no stopping me now.

hibdonjr
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 21
posted August 25, 2004 06:12 PM  
Definitly buy you first car. Then when you build your first you will have a better idea of what you want.

redneck racing
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 860
posted September 03, 2004 03:14 PM  
Still in the process of building the new Nova ive got about $4500 in new parts here waiting to go on, the only old parts im using(excluding the engine and trans) is the seat and the leg rests the rest is all brand new and the seat is going to get a new cover. The cage is a Speedway that we have modified to my liking. Eddie

24s52
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 122
posted September 14, 2004 07:51 AM  
How's this for crazy? I helped a guy build the car then at the end of the season I bought it. Since then I have built my own and his. And he helps me. I most likely will never buy a race car. I am that guy that needs to know everything that goes into my car. I think it also helps find problems and make improvements.

buggyman8
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 50
posted September 14, 2004 02:59 PM  
i helped someone build a car from scratch and i said when i got a car i would buy one and i did i have about 3500 in it now, it is a camaro, 350 60 over roller rockers, 207 210 cam holley 650 carb no liner 3 speed, it was a winner about every weekend at the track i think i gat a good deal......................

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