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cobb
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 131
posted July 11, 2004 08:57 PM  
anybody ever run a t-bird with independant rear end? i've got one and thinking about building it for the full stock. and advice from anyone would help

racer17j
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Total posts: 5390
posted July 11, 2004 09:08 PM  
i'll do that-thanks

4d_POWER
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 136
posted July 12, 2004 07:19 PM  



 
I built one for this year.
Put 2x3 square tubing from front stub to rear. First race car ever so just making some laps.
I did unhook the front and rear sway bars.

Make sure your class will allow an IRS rear before you spend alot of time on it.

cobb
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 131
posted July 14, 2004 04:53 PM  
thats a good lookin ride.

4d_POWER
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 136
posted July 15, 2004 08:26 PM  
Thanks, it was alot of work!

I used a five-star plastic nose piece but everything else was stock-original, the
hood I just cut 2 slits in it and bent it up, then welded in pieces of tin to clear the air cleaner. It turned out nice.

My last race out I really got on it and I threw the alt belt, the Power Steering pump burnt up and the car overheated, I've got some work to do:-)

later

pmiracing
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 44
posted August 27, 2004 08:56 PM  
I've been running an 89 this year the car handles great but I can't keep it cool or keep power steering in it eather. I also can't find any after market springs for it to get rid of the bouncy ride on a ruff track. I eather pull the right rear off the bead or it lays on the right front and looses traction depending on how I drive it.

4d_POWER
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 136
posted August 28, 2004 03:14 PM  
I am having overheating troubles right now
too, The way the motor was mounted
prevented me from using a regular fan, I am using an electric one with a shroud and need to figure it out.
Also My Power Steerng pump burnt up, I've replaced it but after running car for
only 5 minutes the fluid gets too hot,
I am planning on adding a cooler to
the line.

pmiracing
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 44
posted August 29, 2004 10:10 AM  
I was able to run a regular fan (15") with my setup but that's about all you can fit. I put a 4 core chevy style radiator from jr motorsports in and that seems to be working so far(had to hammer to frame rails out to make room on the sides. I still haven't figured out the power steering. I have the same problems as you . I completely melted the plastic tank off one pump. I now run the old style steel pump with a big trans cooler on it and ran last night without any problems. Any ideas on finding springs?

pmiracing
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 44
posted August 29, 2004 10:47 AM  
What rims are you running on your car? All I can find for steel rims are stock taurus rims and they **** (only 6" wide) and 8" wide hoosiers don't fit very well on that.

dode
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 613
posted August 30, 2004 10:22 AM  
The hubs on a ranger should fit you might have to cut the rotors down to get them to fit on 89 or newer, but I know they will fit a early style t-bird.

pmiracing
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 44
posted August 30, 2004 07:00 PM  
The reason it is so hard to fit a fan in is because the motor is alot higher than the radiator. My oil pan is about an eight inch off the crossmember and I still have to run a 2" drop air cleaner with no carb spacers to fit it under the hood(no holes in hood allowed). As far as the power steering it held up this weekend with all new parts and a big cooler but I don't know if it's fixed for good (I can usually get about 3 nights out of it before it burns up) the setup I had on there would get hot just idling.

pmiracing
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 44
posted August 30, 2004 07:06 PM  
I am looking for springs that are 5"dia.x 16"tall 450lbs. rf., and 350lbs. lf, 5 1/2" dia.x 14" tall 550lbs.lr., and 400 lbs. rr. as for shocks I am running premium stock shocks on the right side, an 80's mustang on the left rear for more out travel and a cheep stock on the left front.

4d_POWER
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 136
posted August 30, 2004 07:48 PM  
My motor sits high too, even after beating on oil pan a little and notching x-member a little. I could probably mount a 7" fan before it hit the hood, but it wouldn't
blow much on the radiator.

My wheels are 10" wide using a 4.5 inch lug pattern, I drilled the rotors and hubs and installed 5/8 studs. I wouldn't go any more than 4.5 though.

The front springs are 5-1/2 inch
afco racings 1100lf, 1200rf, with a 1 inch spacer on rf, using Koni Thunderbird inserts.

The rears are 5 inch 350lr, 325 rr with 3" spacers, with bilstein Thunderbird shocks.

Also this car weighs 3200lbs with no weight or driver.

dode
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 613
posted August 31, 2004 12:26 PM  
I can't run any spring spacers on mine, It's supposed to be stock springs only but all the chevy guys run stock apearing race springs. I'm trying some super coupe springs this weekend, should I leave the 3.8 springs on any corner or run all sc springs?(I'm getting all 4) As far as the fan clearance I'm running a 351w with a stock dual sump pan and modified motor mounts to lower it to the crossmember, and the radiator is mounted in the stock location. The 15" fan is about 2" from the hood. As far as power steering I am running the stock crank pulley and a bigger pump pulley for about a 1 to 1 ratio.

dode
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 613
posted September 02, 2004 10:54 AM  
I am running the stock 1971 brackets that were on the motor and the stock v-belt pulleys except the pump pulley which is bigger. Did anything come with a smaller crank pulley stock? The super coupe springs helped alot but I am going to have to do something with the right front spring, it still kinda lays on it in the corners.

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