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dirtracing76
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 19
posted June 14, 2004 02:23 AM  
hello i am building my first car it is my second race car but this one i am building me and a couple of my navy buddies the roll cage that i have to have is supposed to go from bumper to bumper how hard is this to do by your self and does anyone know where i can get a diagram on how to do this on a 79 montey and where is the best place to look for the piping i need any help will be well apreciated i hope to have the car on the dirt for next season i got the car right before i headed over here in the persain gulf and have saved pleanty of money to get it running so thanks in advanced ken

way2fast72
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 303
posted June 14, 2004 03:48 AM  
save yourself a lot of trouble and purchase a kit from any reputable dealer,we have had good luck with speedway motors kits,they have always came with pretty good instruction sheets,also heard good things about CSC kits,but never used one personally.

dirtracing76
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 19
posted June 14, 2004 05:36 AM  
where can i find one of these kits at online and are they especially for certain cars


whiskey4749
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 4
posted June 14, 2004 07:22 AM  
I purchased a kit from /www.cscracing.com .
Great customer service and this was my first try at building my own car. The cage kit Fit Perfectly,just had to do a little grinding here and there. That would be your best bet if trying to build the first time. I run a bomber car 1986 Monte. I have been in some WILD wrecks this year and the car seems to be Plenty Stought. Hope this helps ya.
Team 47

J3
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 188
posted June 14, 2004 08:11 PM  
If I were you, I would take the others advice and buy a kit. You can get them in 4,6 and 8 point configurations I know. I think you can even get a 12 point cage as well. This past winter my dad and I built our own cage in our car. It wasn't really that hard, just very time consuming. Plus, the pipe you use depends on your local rules and that gets pricy. We have all the equipment we needed, welder, cutting torch, and pipe bender to mention a few, plus we had a modol to go from as well.

If we had to do it all over again, we would just buy a 4 point cage (around $180) and add what we wanted to it.

6pack
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 171
posted June 14, 2004 08:57 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by dirtracing76:
where can i find one of these kits at online and are they especially for certain cars


[URL=http://www.speedwaymotors.com/

[This message has been edited by 6pack (edited June 14, 2004).]

20bmw
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 74
posted June 14, 2004 08:58 PM  
stock car products cage kit has everything from bumper to bumper. The tubing is all 1-3/4 095 wall $349

racer17j
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 5390
posted June 14, 2004 09:33 PM  
i would not recomend molly tubing, unless your a great welder, and have a bunch of expirence with molly. stick with the dom tubing as much as you can.

racin2much
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 46
posted June 27, 2004 06:21 PM  
My sponsor builds cages and chassis and can build anything you want to your specs and it fits everywhere. No grinding or anything. Let me know if you are interested. His stuff is awesome and WAY cheaper than anybody else around here.

jbracing
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 44
posted June 28, 2004 05:35 PM  
We used a CSC kit a few years ago, it fit
great and everything was already notched.
We tacked the main cage together in the car,
then cut the top off and took it out so we
could weld it easier (and better). At the
time they had free shipping, too. A buddy
of mine builds cages for drag cars, and he
says the price of tubing has about doubled,
and it's cheaper to buy a kit than bend it
yourself. Are you and your buddys hull techs
by any chance?

badboy
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 74
posted July 01, 2004 08:17 AM  
what is the molly tubing?

snowman
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 241
posted July 01, 2004 08:37 AM  
"molly" tubing is Chrome Moly.....4130 steel.........

I think Racer was actually refering to upgrading to DOM tubing.......50 bucks more is not enough for moly.......In fact, with the steel prices being through the roof right now, it will take more than 50 to upgrade to DOM.......

Regardless the cost, I think you should upgrade to DOM........it is much stronger.......I also think that the average guy should stay away from the Chrome Moly......especially in a pure stock.....

good luck
snowman

dirtracing76
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 19
posted July 01, 2004 06:18 PM  
jb racing no none of us are hull techs some are airframers but most of us are a/c heating and ejection seat techs. most of the airframers are doing alot of the sheet metal work for me and my squadron said they will probably do alot of sponsor mainly time in the shop and painting especailly being that we have one of the best paint teams on the east coast for squadrons.

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racenmotorsports
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 169
posted July 01, 2004 07:53 PM  
you think a sub squadron would use non-skid for painitng my car?? lol

racer17j
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 5390
posted July 01, 2004 08:17 PM  
your right snow sorry bout that guys my mistake.i'm getting a kit from a guy locally 155 bucks for the 4 pt and door bars not sureif he shipps or not he bends them when ordered he also has drop in cages wlededup and ready to go for like 275

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