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Author Topic:   power steering use it or not ???
mrteeshot
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 127
posted March 10, 2004 07:34 PM  
any 1 got an opinion on wether or not to use power steering when available and if we dont is this gonna be a real muther to corner ?what are your opinions on this on asphalt and dirt ????
I am helping a friend and his car is missing the fittings and he dont want to buy them I think he should spend the 20 for a new hose but he thinks he`ll be fine so before he kills himself over a 20 I wanna show him your responses thanks guys p.s. its a huge 79 buick real long sucker he will be racing it on asphalt 1/4 mile pure street stock w/ street radials

joetaylor
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 640
posted March 10, 2004 07:41 PM  
I WATCHED A FRIEND RACE SCRATCH THAT RECK HIS CAR B/C HE GOT TIRED AND HE COULDN'T COMPENSATE FAST ENOUGH

I HAVE P/S WITH A QUICKNER AND 15" WHEEL IT IS ABOUT EQUAL TO DRIVING YOUR DAYLYY DRIVER EXCYPT THE THE TIRES MOVE TWICE AS FAST.

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Rob34
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 14
posted March 10, 2004 07:50 PM  
My friend doesn't run power steering and he likes it, feels like he has more control, and less likely to oversteer. You'll be givin your arms a good work out. Plus its just one more thing you don't have to worry about going wrong. Really it's more driver preference than anything.

Whitelightning
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 429
posted March 10, 2004 08:54 PM  
I have ran both ways and seemed to oversteer a little with power steering. Either way he will need a hose to do it right. I have always hooked hose up to the steering box and filled it with fluid the looped the hose back to the other fitting on the steering box, this makes it easier to turn than simply plugin holes in my experinces. My car really is not that hard to steer its tighter but I like it. It really is preference like Rob34 said. Most of the time we run 20 lap features and if that wears you out man maybe you should work on the big old arms in gym LOL just kidding! Also one thing to consider no power steering you may want and bigger steering wheel and use smaller wheel for power . Also No belts to throw hehe

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racer17j
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 5390
posted March 10, 2004 10:34 PM  
Any of you guys that dont run power steering havent been hit in the front end just right I saw a friend of mine get hit in the driverside front wheel and he had no PS and a broken thumb and two broken bones in his right hand.....Its just my opinion but I prefer a quickner with PS and a 15 or 17 wheel.......Towman

Raz_900
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 635
posted March 11, 2004 09:54 AM  
I prefer PS. I run an '86 monte with a Jones Racing serpentine setup and 15" wheel. I once lost a belt (should have replace it before it shredded) and had to drive without it. I almost wrecked on the first turn. That feeling of more in control?... ummm.. BS to me. I'm much more use to the feel of HAVING power than not having it. Without it I'd think you'd need like a 19" wheel.

MEANGENE83
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 99
posted March 11, 2004 11:20 AM  
I like ps for the fact that when you hit a bump or rut the wheel doesn't jerk out of your hands as bad, and even if the track is perfectly smooth it still helps you if you get tapped from behind and need to turn into a slide quickly.

mrteeshot
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 127
posted March 11, 2004 06:33 PM  
ok ty guys I know that I want my power but will pass these on ty ty tyvm

gould
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posted March 11, 2004 07:36 PM  
what year pump and what year gear box? on mine i got an old style pump and a metric box. the return side is low pressure so you can just use hose clamps on it. on the pressure side i used a metric pressure hose. on the end that attaches to the pump, i cut it off right next to the fitting. i took the old hose off the old pump and cut it in the same place( all your after is the fitting). take that fitting and put it on the metric hose. get a flare tool and flare the end of the hose. boom your done. if you know someone with a flaring tool its really cheap to do. mine cost a bottle of pop, lol. i hope that makes sense.

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hibdonjr
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 21
posted March 13, 2004 01:49 PM  
I ran without P/S for three years in a big car,Bonneville I felt like I could feel the car better that's just my opinion. But you will get a little more tired especially if you have a lot of cautions. I think it is driver preference.

racer17j
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 5390
posted March 14, 2004 01:15 AM  
we ran 1985 ltd 4 dr big boat on half mile asphalt oval with no power steering just looped lines on steering box. ran 250 laps no problem way to much over steer with power.

robhbk24
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 372
posted March 14, 2004 08:36 AM  
i ran my 85 camaro ministocks with no power for years said i did'nbt need it when is swithched to a metric v8 i tried it with out it and with a manuel box. after finally making the swicth back to power 2 years ago i'll never go back. i'm not an extremely big guy at 150lbs and it is a whole lot easier to steer with that nice power assist. i hurt my thumb in an accident without it once when i got hit in the front wheels. we use the van brackets with a stock v6 pump. only had a problwem once when i forgot to check the belt and it loosened up. the power would fade in and out just about the time i'd set myself up fort the corner it would dissapear. i left the track that night with my arms about 3inches longer. for the little bit of extra cost go with the power.

bobaluuu
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 474
posted March 14, 2004 07:16 PM  
Fellas, the thunbs issue is applicable to any vehicle. Stop and think, the tires are connected thru the gearbox not the pump. Now some manual gearboxes are ratioed up to
help turn. but fast blunt force will break any thumbs on any car. Some owners even put
training covers on steer wheels till drivers
got used to driving thumbs outside.In two or three races it feels normal. I even drive my street car that way now.

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chargincharlie_00
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 10
posted March 16, 2004 05:54 PM  
JMO, no power, especially for a new racer. you will always over-correct and scrub speed by turning too much in the corners. if steering your car wears you out, you have steering geometry problems.

chargincharlie_00
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 10
posted March 16, 2004 05:55 PM  
and never drive with your thumbs on the inside of the wheel, power or not

Deak-Jr
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 81
posted March 17, 2004 08:01 AM  
Ditto that -- don't wrap your thumbs. My old man has a nice case of "Pennsboro Thumb" from back in the early '70s. He never ran power steering until he took a few laps in our car this past summer -- he said it wasn't a big deal getting used to it.

droper23
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 233
posted March 25, 2004 10:25 PM  
No question about it, run power steering.

DirtFreak08
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 77
posted April 01, 2004 03:18 PM  
You probably don't need any more replies to this, but I'll put one in anyway. Run the power steering!! I ran with p/s my first night and kept oversteering really bad, so I took it out. Been running without for the past couple years. Did decent, but I think I was not in the gas as much around the turns as I should have been because I had to fight the wheel. I didn't get wore out, but I guess it was the adrenaline, I just didn't think about being tired. I am in week 2 of the racing season now with a new car and power steering, a quickener and a 15" wheel. It's easier than driving granny's cadillac! Plus, I'm running a lot faster than last year, with the same motor.

Hope this helps!!

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