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BamaStreeter
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 4
posted July 10, 2003 09:14 AM  
Hello everybody. This is my first post; I've been reading posts here for a while, and this seems like the right place for my racing questions.
I'm probably going to start racing within the next year or so, and I'm looking for a starter car for a bomber class. I'm looking toward a 75-77 Monte Carlo. I used to own one, and I really liked the way it drove, and the standard 350. I'm wondering are the two drawbacks, wheelbase and weight, going to provide too big of a problem? Also, does the long front end help safety any? There is about a foot and a half between the grill and radiator on those tanks, and I'm thinking that in a hard crash, that would absorb some impact that I'm wouldn't have to. BTW, I'll be running on 1/4 and 3/8-mile clay, banked and flat. Thanks.

racer17j
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 5390
posted July 10, 2003 10:58 AM  
The big Montes are ideal for racing.....heck they were designed to race. Killer engine setback,and with a bit of tinkering around you can even slide that motor to the left and never tell. If your rules allow,even more left side weight can be built into the car with a off set cage.

My buddies and I ran 3 of them for years,all with different motor,trans and gear combos. One ran a 454 with turbo 350 in second gear with 390's in the rear end,the other kid ran a 406 with a turbo 350 in second gear with 410s in the rear end,and I ran a 355 with a powerglide in low with 373s in the rear end. This was done on a 1/3 mile semi banked track.
The front end set up was a 1000lf,1200 rf,225lr and a 200 rr for springs. Parts are getting harder to find,but with some thought and work....anything can be made.

x factor
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 34
posted July 11, 2003 08:43 PM  
Let me start out by saying that I loved the big Monte but...
The track that I run at allowed us to cut out everything but the firewall and the floorpan which had to run to the front of the rear tires. By stripping the car down to almost nothing it still weighed 3000# and with our rules we had to weigh 3200#. All is good right? NO! The car as I had it set up weighed 3480# and had 53% front weight which sucked real bad on dry slick.I do beleive the with a different cage constuction, 1 1/2" rather than 1 3/4" tubing that the car could be lightened considerably compared to the one I bought.
The stength of these cars is fantastic but the weight disatvantage is something to be considered. I have built a new metric car and with no added weight it was 2648#. By time I got it to 3200# I had over 52% rear weight.

Ps. I had also cut the Monte frame down 4" and hung a Chevelle body on it and went from 53% front weight to 51% rear weight and lost 100# doing so but got busted in tech for the body not matching the frame.

cobb
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 131
posted July 13, 2003 01:26 AM  
we've raced one of those as a hobbie car. they handle like a dream but the weight is a problem-if you have to have a heavy car thats your ride. also look around and find a 12 bolt readend if you have to run stock stuff.hit the juckyards and look under every station wagon you see. if you can, find a bumper off a 70 model monte,their thin but if you brace it just right it'll be strong and a lot lighter than the stock bumper and it kinda looks like it goes on that car

uforacing51
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 570
posted July 15, 2003 01:57 PM  
Other things to consider, you can move the body back some and use less bar in front than most cages call for. Don't sacrafice safety just use your head. I ran those kind of cars for years and they rule. I think you can get them to handle easily and quite well too. The metrics work well also, but I just like the old Montes and chevelles

Fomocosho
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 135
posted July 16, 2003 09:39 PM  
Around my area the big Montes still rule. Over three quarters of the street stocks are still big Montes.

Dirt Racer #E40
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 56
posted July 17, 2003 12:26 AM  
where do you plan on running a car like this at..

BamaStreeter
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 4
posted July 22, 2003 08:56 AM  
A few tracks in the Northwest Alabama area. Mainly Thunder Valley Speedway in Winfield, North Alabama Speedway in Tuscumbia, and maybe Moulton Speedway in Moulton. All 1/4 to 3/8 mile, both banked and semi-banked. Why?

JOHN NIP
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 207
posted July 22, 2003 11:45 AM  
i run at thunder valley in win,al alot let me no if you need some help. a friend of mine has a big body monte already set up as a roller. we live about 30 miles from the track.

1970z28
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 81
posted July 23, 2003 09:42 PM  
just wondering, we run at river valley @ arkadelphia, al. 76 monte in street stock car handles good.

t.nie
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 10
posted July 27, 2003 11:21 AM  

 
I wonder what X Factor would say now that he has raced his new metric..lol, actually I know what he says. Metrics suck! Ok, so an update now that he has moved onto actually racing his metric. So far, first night out he was running third when he T boned a guy who spun in front of him, and that meant a front stub. Took two weeks, he goes back out again, and is really doing well, leading the feature when he gets passed rather aggressively in one and two and the result is a flat LF and the guy who did the passing rips his own bumper off. Result, both cars out.

Last time out, he pops a right rear in the heat in two, and does the laziest little slo mo roll onto his side on the backstraight, intending to take a nap. He is so lazy!!!!!! Nothing broke, little damage, change a tire, bang some sheet metal, he goes back out for the feature and pulls off after gong from last to fourth on a dry track (never would have happe....ok, well, X is one slick driver, so maybe "never" isnt quite appropriate, but not a good situation for the Monte as previously stated) with a motor malfunction. Nothing to do with the car, really.

Heres a pic of the chevelle body on it, (with a friends battleship gray monte behind it) and the old monte as well.

[This message has been edited by t.nie (edited July 27, 2003).]

t.nie
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 10
posted July 27, 2003 11:24 AM  

 
pics didnt take right first time. Heres the others.

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