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john sallstrom
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 16
posted June 21, 2003 01:17 PM  
Last wk the car was great. Went from 17th and finished 3rd. This week on a dry slick clay 1/2 mile track it was so loose from the center off, the car was undrivable.. UGH
This is a 3200 lb Nova, 51% left, 51.5% rear, and 50% cross. 1200 lb spring in the rf, 950 lf, 225 leaf lr, 175 rr . Shocks are adjustable Deutch all set firm. Tire pressures (stock tires -255/70/15) 30 rf, 28 rr, 26 lf & lr. 2" backspace on the front, 4" on the rear. Front is 1.5" wider track. How do I tighten this car from the center off ???

justin
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 263
posted June 22, 2003 02:11 PM  
Try putting a 2" offset wheel on the LR or increase your cross. This should tighten you up some.

Justin

REDA$$
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 4
posted June 22, 2003 03:52 PM  
I GO WITH THE 2 OFF ON THE LR AND HEADS UP ON TIRE SIZE AND PRESSURE ON LR TO RR. WE ALWAYS HAVE DRY SLICK FOR FEATURE IN WACO TX

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john sallstrom
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 16
posted June 22, 2003 04:13 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by REDA$$:
I GO WITH THE 2 OFF ON THE LR AND HEADS UP ON TIRE SIZE AND PRESSURE ON LR TO RR. WE ALWAYS HAVE DRY SLICK FOR FEATURE IN WACO TX



We have had a lot of rain her in the SE, but by the time we run (usually lasst race of the nite) the track has really dried out. I also have 3 wheel spacers on the RR. they are there to even out the stock 9" Ford rearend. I guess I could remove some to bring the RR tire in under the car more.
Did you say to go up on air pressure in the LR and go down on the RR ? If so, how much. I can run a bead lock on the RR, but can't afford it as of yet.

Eljojo
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 968
posted June 23, 2003 09:42 PM  
You want to bring the RR back under the car, and move the LR out. Measure the rear tires and get the same roll out on each-run no stagger.

john sallstrom
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 16
posted June 24, 2003 07:57 PM  
I'm going to take 1" of the spacers out of the RR and put the 2" backspaced wheel on the LR. and even the tire pressures in the rear to 26 lbs each. Tires roll out @ 89 1/2 " each. Then run the heat race and adjust from there. I've read in other forums that a little less right foot would help, but when I see the front and back stretch I have a hard time not "nailing" the throttle. Thanks for your help. Let you know how it goes Fri nite... John

REDA$$
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 4
posted June 25, 2003 05:37 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Eljojo:
You want to bring the RR back under the car, and move the LR out. Measure the rear tires and get the same roll out on each-run no stagger.

Eljojo is right also, I forgot to tell you to bring the rr in. On a dry slick track you need to drive like you have an egg under the gas pedal. Depending on the track you will want to stay low in the turns (as low as you can get) and mid track on the staights on most tracks. I have been on a few tracks that the line has been high to mid in turns. I run on a 1/4 mile track and run lower pressure than you in the rear (14-17 w/ tubes), you may try a little lower pressure if you are using tubes. Try a little at a time, 1/2 mile track will cause more heat in tire at lower pressure

good luck, and let us know how you like it.
Michael

john sallstrom
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 16
posted June 28, 2003 09:36 PM  
Well, I don't have to woory about moving the wheels up under the car to tighten her up..... Got rearended and now both wheels are up in the glove-box.. These Nova rear clips are very flimsy... Anybody got a Monte Carlo roller for sale in the NC, SC area ????

Eljojo
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 968
posted June 29, 2003 09:42 PM  
Crappola! I lost one the same way..got into the wall backwards! Took the cage out and put it in a Malibu.....

REDA$$
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 4
posted June 30, 2003 01:47 PM  
That suck's

rico 08
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 1139
posted June 30, 2003 01:59 PM  
I've got a camaro i'll sell if you want to stay with a leaf spring car.Not any stouter in the rear that the nova tho.

Eljojo
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 968
posted June 30, 2003 06:56 PM  
Rico, Thanks, The malibu got traded for a Howe chassis that got sold and I built a Camaro last winter. I love the leaf cars!
I wrinkle up the back end of this one and I'm going to replace the rear with tubing and keep on truckin'!

john sallstrom
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 16
posted July 01, 2003 01:52 AM  
I'd like to just cut out the bent parts and weld in a rear clip, but I wouldn't get past tech . The next class up is a "Thunder & Lightning" class which is tube frame cars with stock appearing bodies, The motors turn out close to 600 + horses. Needless to say it costs mega $$$ and I could only run it at a few tracks, Still looking to rebuild with a Monte frame, although the learning curve will be steep as I have run only the Nova for the past 5 years.. There seems to be a paucity of Nova chassis available. So,,,,, once I get started, I'll be back getting advice on springs, shocks and the little things that make a winner. Thanks ya'll ... John

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