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mikehaze
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 39
posted May 10, 2003 07:43 AM  
I have a 383 stocker motor when it is cold starts just fine. but to keep car running I have to have the timing advanced way up when I put it in gaer running a automatic.Then when it gets hot the starter drag so bad that it will not start.Can anyone help with this problem?thanks

racer17j
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Total posts: 5390
posted May 10, 2003 09:25 AM  
17j is giving good advice also you can run a lot of cam with proper tuning sometimes it takes awhile to get one to idle in gear but I have ran a 510 lift 254@ 50 and got it to idle in gear with stock converter...Towman

mikehaze
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 39
posted May 10, 2003 12:11 PM  
thanks I will try that,timing is at 36 degrees before,284-290@.0040 is that to much cam

towmandan
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Total posts: 370
posted May 10, 2003 12:48 PM  
284-290 must be the advertised duration, what is the duration at .050 that will tell me a little more?.....towman

mikehaze
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 39
posted May 10, 2003 04:59 PM  
hey that was advertised it's 228-234 @ 50 thanks again t-350 with quadajet carb how is the best way to tune the carb

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Flatlander
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Total posts: 355
posted May 10, 2003 10:08 PM  
Thats vbabout the dur I ran in streety with a 501 501 and a 488 488 pulled very well

towmandan
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Total posts: 370
posted May 11, 2003 10:44 AM  
Your in good shape on your choice of camshaft I have ran quite a bit bigger with know problems. First you got to start off with a good carb...I like to use a vacume gauge the more vacume you pull at an idle the better in tune you will be, you may also want to play with valve lash a little too.Hook your vac. gauge up to a manifold vac. source turn air adjusters in while keeping the motor running ( you may have to throttle it once in a while to keep it running )as you watch gauge vac. will be dropping while your going in try to do both side equally when comming back out (same turns each side)turn adjusters out until maximum vacume is reached.more than likely your engine will be idleing to high now adjust idle where you want...sorry so long..hope this helps....Towman

YAZ
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 147
posted May 11, 2003 10:33 PM  
I had a simular problem last week.
Starts fine when cold, but drags
real bad when hot.
I was told that when the starter
gets hot, it gets tight and drags.
I put a new starter on and it works
fine now.

D21
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 43
posted May 12, 2003 12:14 AM  
I'd check the starter. Put a different one on, even if this one is new. Sometimes you get a bad one. Also, if you run headers, you might want to see about a heat shield for the starter, heat will kill it.

mikehaze
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 39
posted May 12, 2003 11:10 AM  
thanks towman,i will try that today got rain out this weekend so don't know turning motor over then hitting switch will help yet. also it is new starter with a heat sheild that is the first thing tried thanks again

towmandan
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posted May 12, 2003 02:49 PM  
Let us know what you find out....Towman

uforacing51
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Total posts: 570
posted May 13, 2003 03:28 PM  
Make sure your engine is grounded with a heavy guage wire, had the same problem with a new starter last year on the pure stock. put the ground strap on and it never did it again.

mikehaze
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 39
posted May 16, 2003 06:29 PM  
towmandan,got carb tuned in right I think put in new plugs started car let warm up started just fine. can you beleive it was the plugs thans for the help hopefully no rain get to try it out at the track

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