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Speed Racer X
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 115
posted March 02, 2003 10:33 PM  
We have a fresh 13:1 383 SBC. The battery is in the trunk, 1/0 welding cable to a Ford solenoid on the fire wall, and a over the counter (O'Reilly Automotive) rebuilt starter. We also run an HEI distributor with the advance welded.
When the engine is cold it cranks just fine, but after it warms up, it may or may not crank. We are running the timing between 32 and 36 degrees (total) advanced. If we adjust the timing back to 20 or 25 degrees it will usally start, but I think a different starter is the answer.
What do you guys run for a starter? Is there a better-than- average stock type starter? Is a rewound stock type starter (Mega Torque) the answer? How about a Mini-Starter, (Nippondenso, Hitachi, 1.9 hp,2.68 hp, 3:1 or 4:441 gear reduction)?
Money is always a factor, but a race car that won't start ain't worth much either. Thanks again for all the help, you guys RULE!!!

[This message has been edited by Speed Racer X (edited March 02, 2003).]

Slam_Shifter
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 53
posted March 02, 2003 10:40 PM  
Two things you may try. We run the same set up as your with the hei. One thing we did when the car was hot was start the car turning over before we armed the ignition. It would fire right up. One thing you could try is use the stock starter off the early 90's s-10 4x4 with the 4.3. They were a stock mini torque and should be easy to buy at the bone yard or from the local parts store. New at the parts store they can be spendy.

Slam_Shifter

racer17j
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Total posts: 5390
posted March 03, 2003 12:05 AM  
mini starter is the way to go..i love mine

Donnie Ross
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 264
posted March 03, 2003 08:12 PM  
starter off 95 1 ton chevy 454 or 350 $115.00 remanned or about 40.00 in scrap yard mini gear reduction works great and lifetime warrany if bought remanned my truck gets a new one occasionaly to.

merlinmech2
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Total posts: 131
posted March 04, 2003 09:21 AM  
Don't weld your dist. and put lite springs in it. Starts easy and goes to full advance anyway as soon as you hit the throttle. Can't get much cheaper than that

uforacing51
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Total posts: 570
posted March 04, 2003 01:45 PM  
Had a 79 Monte Carlo with the same problem, I thought the starter was going bad. Friend who works at a parts place told me to ground the engine better. I ran a heavy guage wire from the engine to the frame and it stopped doing it. If your engine isn't grounded to the frame, try it, you might cure it without buying anything.

odb93
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Total posts: 537
posted March 11, 2003 01:30 PM  
A 90 s10 with a 4.3 has a Mini starter.

If you get it from Autozone new it is $175.

Slam_Shifter
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 53
posted March 11, 2003 02:34 PM  
Have you ever had trouble with keeping your timing accurate with the springs and weights? That is why I weld mine. Try one welded and shoot it with the timing light at high rpm and try one with light springs and weights and shoot it with a timing light. You may be surprised what you see. I see the point on getting it started though.


Slam_Shifter

maniac motors
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Total posts: 128
posted March 17, 2003 09:14 PM  
94- up chevy truck had a permanent magnet gear reduction starter. guaranteed to turn over any thing also use in big block trucks of same vintage.pricey but wont find a better one.(liteweight too)

merlinmech2
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posted March 18, 2003 08:54 AM  
Slam- Never have trouble with it changing, but as timing chain gets loose it will wiggle a bit. I can see if u start getting overly high on comp. it might be a problem, but with a motor like that u will problably have a better dist. Always start good though.

Speed Racer X
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posted March 18, 2003 09:53 PM  
Thanks again for all the help!!! We ended up buying a 2hp gear reduction mini-starter. $150 seemed like alot of money at the time, but the car will now start reguardless. We tried cranking and then turning on the power to the HEI, but the stock starter wouldn't take it. It the past we have run light springs on the distributor, but after running a welded one, we would not go back to the springs. Thanks again.

odb93
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 537
posted March 26, 2003 02:21 PM  
From what I have found it is cheaper to buy a mini starter from Midwest than from autozone.


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