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20bmw
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 74
posted December 09, 2002 12:20 PM  
I got a cage kit From Stock car products.
The kit is the "Elite".
Kit has everything from front to back..
I`m putting this cage in a 86 Cutlass.

Is there any tips or tricks that i can do to when putting the cage in to help with the handling of the car on the track?????

Thanks,20bmw

Flatlander
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 355
posted December 09, 2002 01:00 PM  
I myself move it as far left and to the rear and as low ( make sure your head is well below the halo )as much as SAFELY possible notice I did noy say legally and if you have a way to lift it you could fit and tack it in the car then take it out and weld it if you decide to weld it in place remove the top makes it much easier

[This message has been edited by Flatlander (edited December 09, 2002).]

jhon hollomon
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Total posts: 468
posted December 09, 2002 01:51 PM  
Use gussets everywhere you can for strength.

20bmw
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 74
posted December 09, 2002 09:47 PM  
I`ve had people tell me that they twisted the frame and welded all of the cross bracing at the same time..

They said this preloads the chassis and makes it handle better..
Does anyone know what they are talking about and how is it done ???

Flatlander
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 355
posted December 09, 2002 10:08 PM  
they jack the right front up I don't have much faith in the idea but if it works for some then thats great I want mine both sqaure and as level as posible but JMO

tilley88
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Total posts: 879
posted December 10, 2002 12:35 AM  
Almost any chassis builder will tell you, straight and square is the key. I'm a firm believer in zero flex: let the suspension do it's job.

zoomy#74
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 34
posted December 12, 2002 09:19 PM  
The reason they put the twist in the frame when welding together is to get wedge. Most pure stock or bomber classes won't allow you to use adjustable spring set-ups so an easy way to get wedge in the car is to weld it in. The problem with this method is that once it is set you can't change it.

go4win
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 61
posted December 15, 2002 12:51 PM  
Do not weld too much at one intersection
when finish welding. Too much heat can be
bad. It can also "pull" the bars out of square. I would probably keep it all square
instead of "tweaking it" .


66jj
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Total posts: 823
posted December 15, 2002 06:56 PM  
Tack weld in the rear main cage bar, then the halo bar to it, so you can get the angle and height you want, then you can pull them out and finish weld those two joints, thats all that should be hard to get to with the body on...

The fronts should be back far enough from the window pillar to weld easily...

jeff

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