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Author Topic:   Outlaw SIMS - Limited Mod Gripe!
General
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 155
posted December 07, 2005 05:29 PM  
What is the deal with the header changes? Heresay said Mcallen saw crazy over the rail headers on limiteds and they let it go..
After all this time with no changes, limiteds are allowed a header change and now folks are getting carried away and putting on just about whatever they want. I say do away with all header changes and go back to the way it was. It's bad enough you hear engines during line-ups that sound like roller motors. Whats next?

Racer X
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 259
posted December 07, 2005 07:32 PM  
That's why my nephew went back to a IMCA mod. He was spending as much on his sims as he did on his mod and running for less money.

grownup
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 1
posted December 09, 2005 11:31 AM  
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Originally posted by General:
What is the deal with the header changes? Heresay said Mcallen saw crazy over the rail headers on limiteds and they let it go. After all this time with no changes, limiteds are allowed a header change and now folks are getting carried away and putting on just about whatever they want. I say do away with all header changes and go back to the way it was. It's bad enough you hear engines during line-ups that sound like roller motors. Whats next?

Are you by any chance talking about #83? Were there others?

FirstLight7
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 72
posted December 09, 2005 06:03 PM  
I noticed a change at the end of last season with the header style that runs inside the rails under the block. You can't hear them if they are running off your rear bumper.

There seems to be a large number of average cars, then a few that just dominate. I'm, not sure that it's a question of motor. These cars can get ahold of the track and have forward bite like crazy.

Anyone know what re-engineering is making such a difference? Shocks, springs, tire pressures and setup doesn't seem to make this dramatic difference. Are these cars rotating the rear-end center housing, off setting the rear-end axle housing length when converting to ford axles, moving the lower trailing arm brackets on the axle housing and/or moving the upper deck plate that locates the upper trailing arms? I haven't tried any of these changes. No complaints, just wanting to know a little more.

PM me if you don't wish to say in public. I'm a little bored with SIMS and plan on running a non-SIMS class next season.

General
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 155
posted December 10, 2005 12:10 PM  
Dunno FirstFlight. Chance I might run my StreetStock engine next season. Ever hear a limited turn 9 Grand!? HAHA! If I were to win, I'm sure everyone would here about it on the net!
Seriously though, most of those faster cars you refer to here are accomplished drivers from much higher classes with Alot of Bank$. Are they spending Megabucks? You Betcha! Are they cheating, prolly not.
With any popular class like Limiteds your going to have a few Racers competing with a Budget equal to ARCA.

FirstLight7
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 72
posted December 10, 2005 07:08 PM  
Each year I have been able to win a few heats against a SIMS champ or two. But thats with me starting on the front row and running a perfect race. Their cars were clearly faster, the rest was luck and just holding them off. Other times I've run races where cars have pushed me the last 1/3 of the straight, I would let off and roll into the turn taking the fastest line and beating them down the chute until they caught back up and helped me into the next turn. This went on for almost the whole race.

These cars are able to run lines on a tacky or dry track that an average setup can't follow.

I think a few of the things I mentioned above are being done, along with a few that I didn't mention.

I enjoy close racing with clean drivers, I just want a equal chance at running up front.

Long straight 1/4 mile I was able to get 6800 rpm, on most of the smaller 1/4's I top out at 6300.

SIMS in the pre-ULMA days - it was very inexpensive to build a competitive ride. With rule changes and limited tech those days are long gone.


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