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Ego Racing
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posted November 18, 2005 08:30 AM  
KROM I agreed with you 130% until the comment about the dry slick, We are running a crate motor (604) with 362ci aluminum head dry sump roller motor late model on alcky. These are 650-750hp proffesionaly built motors. We ran two times on like tires and had a 4th and a 6th place finish. The third time we ran D55's as a practice for another race while everyone else was on 15's and we finished 10th with 21 cars starting and 19 finishing.

Kromulous
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posted November 18, 2005 08:35 AM  
Ego, how many tenths faster a lap was the leader compared to the crate car?

When i said run with, i mean run first. Up front, in the lead.

You may be able to stay on the lead lap, or run up towards the front, but you arnt gonna be up front.


Spi-Nex post up your thoughts, its a free country. I enjoy the different view points myself. You havnt offended anyone, but you may have raised some short hairs. Its what makes this country and this sport so fun.


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highside
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posted November 18, 2005 11:43 AM  
You guys will have to excuse Spi-Nex for his postings.He does not even race a modified and he is always running his mouth around this area on different forums.He claims to know everything about a modified but does not own or race one.
I think maybe he is trying to get UMP to sponsor him.Just my 2 cents.

Ego Racing
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posted November 18, 2005 12:06 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Kromulous:
Ego, how many tenths faster a lap was the leader compared to the crate car?

When i said run with, i mean run first. Up front, in the lead.

You may be able to stay on the lead lap, or run up towards the front, but you arnt gonna be up front.


Spi-Nex post up your thoughts, its a free country. I enjoy the different view points myself. You havnt offended anyone, but you may have raised some short hairs. Its what makes this country and this sport so fun.


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On the 4th place night we started 22nd, we finished in 4th place. There were 19 cars finished. Non were 1 lap down. We were running 16.20's and the leader qualified on a tacky track at 16.19. The leader and 2nd place were nose to tail the 3rd car was outside of 2nd about 1/2 way up the car and we were under 3rd and 2nd. Our right front tire was at 2nd places quarter panel going under the flag. This was after an 11 lap green flag run not a 1 lap dash. The winner came down to tell us it was great running with us and if there had been a few more laps we would have won. We had made it up to 2nd in front of the eventual winner before a lapped car knocked the leader out and put us into through the infield and we lost a few spots.
The 6th place night we started 15th and were in 6th when a double file restart almost put us and the 5th and 7th place car into the wall when someone went brain dead going into the corner. We ended up 13th with 6 laps left and finished 6th.
At Screven earlier this year we Qualified 13th for there super show out of 29 cars that tried, 5 cars went home, there were 2 crate motor cars that made the show. We did not finish at Screven because when we passed Stacy Roberts he drove way to deep into the next corner and destroyed the left front of the car and it would not turn left anymore because he broke two bolts off of the rack.

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PEwaste
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Total posts: 29
posted November 18, 2005 12:16 PM  
On our car we fabricated nearly everything on our own. The birdcages, brackets, everything we did on our own. We have a old Ford 9 we grabbed out of an old truck and covnerted it to a 4-bar system on our own. So we have less than $3000 in our chassis, but we did it the hard long way.

Our motor we got a good deal on, 383 for $6500 and we estimate (we dont know where we can get a motor dynod at) around 650hp.


You only had $4000 in your whole car a few posts ago. Now you have a $6500 Car.

Spi-nex
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Total posts: 55
posted November 18, 2005 12:19 PM  
No, you misunderstood me.

$4000 for my Factory Stock

$6500 for our Modified Motor

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Kromulous
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Total posts: 810
posted November 18, 2005 12:34 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Ego Racing:
On the 4th place night we started 22nd, we finished in 4th place. There were 19 cars finished. Non were 1 lap down. We were running 16.20's and the leader qualified on a tacky track at 16.19. The leader and 2nd place were nose to tail the 3rd car was outside of 2nd about 1/2 way up the car and we were under 3rd and 2nd. Our right front tire was at 2nd places quarter panel going under the flag. This was after an 11 lap green flag run not a 1 lap dash. The winner came down to tell us it was great running with us and if there had been a few more laps we would have won. We had made it up to 2nd in front of the eventual winner before a lapped car knocked the leader out and put us into through the infield and we lost a few spots.
The 6th place night we started 15th and were in 6th when a double file restart almost put us and the 5th and 7th place car into the wall when someone went brain dead going into the corner. We ended up 13th with 6 laps left and finished 6th.
At Screven earlier this year we Qualified 13th for there super show out of 29 cars that tried, 5 cars went home, there were 2 crate motor cars that made the show. We did not finish at Screven because when we passed Stacy Roberts he drove way to deep into the next corner and destroyed the left front of the car and it would not turn left anymore because he broke two bolts off of the rack.

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Thats pretty impressive EGO, after some thought today i can or will admit the power can be harmfull on a dry slick track. At least a small motor, or low HP can keep up or win maybe.

Although when its tacky and stays tacky thru the heats, we are still down on power compared to the fastest on the track. Usually when the track is ripe, were 3 tenths a lap off, when it drys were right there.

Thou when it goes slick we cant use over 1/2 throttle usually, some kinda irony in that i guess. Thats on a small 1/4 mile.

Out at the big 3/8ths tri oval we race on its hammer down, wide open. I dont think a small motor could do any good out there, but i may be wrong. The track usually always has some moisture in it.

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zeroracing
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posted November 18, 2005 01:57 PM  
Ego is an exception, few years of driving and set up help behind that group. Good job Ego.

HarrisMod#30
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posted November 18, 2005 02:56 PM  
PE id venture down there with the sportmod, dont know how well id do, as this is being my first full year, although i have raced like 8 races in a regular mod a did decent, and now everyone asks me why i dont race a regular mod, my reply: this is an opertunity for quality seat time with the possibility of winning a race,and not getting in the way of the fast guys(there was nothing i hated more than some slow car getting in our way when Wade was driving) but anyway, did any one find out what the tire is going to sell for In Iowa?

Leaf
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posted November 18, 2005 04:08 PM  
88 bucks in omaha.

they were 95 last year at the same place.


dluna
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posted November 18, 2005 05:07 PM  
Spi-nex,

When you talk about the IMCA tire and tracks, I think a lot of people that responded race at non-sanctioned IMCA tracks that run close to the same rules, usually minus the 550$ claim. For example, our track is IMCA rules, except $550 + exchange for the claim. I have seen some REALLY impressive and fast racing all throughout the Midwest on AR tires. It is easy to say move down a class if the cost is too much, but that's part of it I think. There is nothing better than being competitive with a low budget car against the cars that have $25K+ invested. That's what keeps the poor man going...finding ways to go faster without spending more $$$. Besides, the initial intent of the modified was to be able to race a fast racecar at an acceptable cost. If someone wants to spend loads of money, perhaps they should step up a class and run something like Outlaw Late Models. It’s like when you go to a go-kart track and the karts are unequal. There’s nothing I hate more than spending a ton of cash on a ride and you end up in a turd kart. You know you can drive better than the guy in front of you, but it is impossible to make a pass because of the variance in the karts. If you could only switch him karts, you could do circles around him.

IMO…In no way does the size of the wallet depict the knowledge and skill of the man behind the wheel.

Good luck next year.

HarrisMod#30
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posted November 18, 2005 05:11 PM  
Engine exchange option added in 2006 for Modifieds, Stock Cars
VINTON, Iowa (Nov. 16) – An engine exchange option has been added for IMCA Modified and Stock Car drivers competing at weekly and special events next season.
The driver in each class accepting the claim will have the choice between cash, which remains unchanged at $525 for Modifieds and $425 for Stock Cars, or exchanging engines with the driver making the claim. The claiming driver will pay the $25 wrecker fee if the cash option is taken, or a $50 wrecker fee if the exchange option results.
“Since the introduction of the Modified in 1979, we have experimented with the engine exchange at special events, special series events and in our traveling series, and during that time drivers have continued to exercise their privilege to claim,” IMCA Vice President of Operations Brett Root said. ”The majority of our members don’t argue the effectiveness of the claim. They argue the fairness of it. There is a fine line between keeping the claim affordable and fair without jeopardizing its effectiveness.”
The number of claims a driver can make will be capped at four, with the exchange option available in each instance. Hobby Stock and SportMod drivers will be allowed one claim at the straight cash value and as many as three more exchange claims.
No change is being made in IMCA’s general claim procedures, including requirements that the driver making the claim have cash, their claim card and current license when they pull into the claim area.
Also unchanged is the provision allowing IMCA or the track promoter to claim any engine for cash. The one special event where the engine exchange will not be in place is the IMCA Speedway Motors Super Nationals, where the public auction will continue to follow the Saturday night race program.
Claim cards will be redesigned so track officials can record when the claim was for cash or the exchange.
“While the Modifieds and Stock Cars are still affordable weekly divisions, they have engine rules open to more aftermarket components, with less engine restrictions resulting in an engine that, in general, costs more money to build,” Root said. “We have more structure to engine rules for our Hobby Stocks and SportMods. Drivers in those classes can still be competitive with engines that cost less than $1,000.”
The number of engine claims in a season peaked at 544 in 1997. Of the 404 claims accepted this year, 149 were in the Modified division, 138 in the Hobby Stocks and 113 in the Stock Cars.
“We are not trying to eliminate engine claims. That’s the last thing we want to do. The purpose of claiming is to keep engine costs to a minimum,” Root said. “We want to keep all our divisions affordable and allow racers to come back to the track week in and week out. Even with the exchange option, racers will continue to claim. The frequency of claims is what concerns us. If you have no claims, you essentially have no claim rule.”

Spi-nex
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posted November 18, 2005 05:25 PM  
For some reason, no matter what board I go to, I manage to pick a fight somewhere, I dont try to, it just happens. Ive deleted all my dumb posts.

Sorry for opening my mouth. Ill only post when I have a question or something relevant to say from now on.

Thats good to hear that IMCA is giving the guys a chance to go home WITH a motor at teh end of the night.

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