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Author Topic:   Hot set up, Trick stuff for 06 ??
Kromulous
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posted November 07, 2005 03:49 PM  
Its easying into Winter, and i'm bored already. So i got a question, whats going to be the new "trick" thing for 06, or the new "hot set-up"?

05 was an interesting year, alot of new things, brake chains, clamped up LR's, new 2 way pull bars, and other things. Makes me excited to see what next year has to offer.

The Hot set-up around my parts this year was the Swing arm / Z-link on the RR with a coil over, and 4 Bar LR spring behind. The clear majority were running it.

Next year i beleive were gonna see 4 bar cars go by the way side a little, more 2 links, and 2 link swings.

Trick item, i believe hydralicly dampened pull bars are the future, better control and adjustability.

Whats your thoughts?

Krom.

ukandesperate
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 45
posted November 07, 2005 05:02 PM  
check your pm,what you think???

street31
Dirt Roller

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posted November 07, 2005 05:02 PM  
from a paved driver what are break chains?

happy
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 73
posted November 08, 2005 05:59 AM  
I have wondered why somebody has yet to come up with an adjustable gas pull bar, should be pretty basic with a Nitorgen canister and could easily be dialed to different track conditions.

happy
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posted November 08, 2005 05:59 AM  
I've been wondering why somebody has yet to come up with an adjustable gas pull bar, should be pretty basic with a Nitorgen canister and could easily be dialed to different track conditions.

Another one would be a more user friendly Panhard bar.........

[This message has been edited by happy (edited November 08, 2005).]

Kromulous
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posted November 08, 2005 07:15 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by street31:
from a paved driver what are break chains?

I call em brake chains, basicly its a lift bar, or lift arm like a LM runs, and all it has on it is a chain connected to the chassis. When you declerate it pulls against the chassis to keep the chassis loaded. You run it in tandem with a pull bar.

Skyrockets, BPRC cars and other run them.

The pull bar, the nitrogen canister deal is a good idea. I dont know why either, seems to me a good way to add some easy adjustabilty into a car. Changing them springs and setting preload at the track is a major pain.

A user friendly panhard bar, now that would be nice. I seen some of the new brackets out that are cut with a radius in them, that helps but it still leaves abit to be desired.

UKanddesperate, i like it, but i dont know if it would be legal in the states.


Krom.

dirttrackin94
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posted November 08, 2005 07:33 AM  
TRUTHFULLY I HOPE TO SEE NOTHING NEW,THERE ARE ALREADY WAY TO MANY THINGS TO MESS WITH ON A CHASSIS AND PLENTY OF THINGS ALREADY TO GET THEM DIALED IN.I GOT AN 01 PEIRCE AND ITS FAST OUT OF THE BOX.

THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WOULD BE COCKPIT ADJUSTIBLE ITEMS,LIKE WEIGHT JACKS AND SHOCKS..

IowaFuzzy1
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posted November 08, 2005 08:14 AM  
$$$$$$$$$$$$ how many more "toys"do you guys want on these things.Everyone gripes about the cost,and in the next breath they're trying to come up with more "trick equipment".Why don't you just sit down and figure out how to make what you got work better and go faster? That's what the guys who are fast now have done.$$$$$$$$$$$$

autoshop
Dirt Freak

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posted November 08, 2005 12:04 PM  
SCP make a 3rd link that is a air cylinder, used them years ago, I had a chain brake on my car until IMCA made me take it off said it was not legal.

wfoondirt
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posted November 08, 2005 02:26 PM  
Personally I view the racing parts industry similar to the informercial/as seen on tv industry. Every year there are new whiz bang bling bling parts that someone makes and gets someone fast to put on their car than claim that their part is the reason so and so is fast and will make your grandma as fast as him. In reality most of these parts just seperate a racer from his money. I feel that most of your average drivers would gain more speed from taking the money they would spend on the new hotness and spend it on a driving school . Even a HPDE course would do wonders for alot of drivers. Even though it isn't directed specifically towards dirt the basics of car control are the same.

[This message has been edited by wfoondirt (edited November 08, 2005).]

Kromulous
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posted November 08, 2005 02:38 PM  
Chassis seminars, maybe? i hear D. Schwartz is putting on a show over in Effingham some time soon.

If you guys dont like the parts deal, whats going to be new set up wise?

I just like watching trends is all. Just wondering what others thoughts were.

Some parts can be for kicks, i agree. Although there are others that are a clear improvement. Coil over kits is a good example, some are junk, cheaply made etc, others are nice.

20crew
Dirt Roller

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posted November 08, 2005 07:19 PM  
The next trick setup will more than likely be not all that trick or new . but just a small change in an old thing and some one will be fast with it then every one will have to have it.
the cockpit ajust abjustible stuff would be nice as long as the driver didn't adjust them selves out of wack. I did see some late models years ago with hydrolick weight jacks.
the adjustible gas pull bar would probally be illegal under most rules [nitrogen canister].
most cars around here are 4bar lr clamped in front Zlink rr spring on top changed our's to 4 bar both sides really freed the car up geting in. driver really liked it . could hang with the usmts crowd after that.

CLBaker25
Dirt Maniac

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posted November 09, 2005 08:19 AM  
Maybe the new Noteboom designed JET car. I think that between Jay and JET they will probably win enough races that people will start buying them.

Bigdogmod
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posted November 09, 2005 11:49 AM  
I am not sure that all the bells and whistles are that important! I am as guilty as the next guy though, because I like to have the latest and greatest. My first mod was a 97 pro chassis multi-leaf car. I bought it in 2000 and it actually had the "brake chain" set-up on it.It worked really well, but I have since sold the car and moved on to bigger and better so to speak. That car actually won the state championship this year with a rookie driver. I dont think he won a race all season but he was consistent. Food for thought!!

Babe
Dirt Newbie

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posted November 11, 2005 06:07 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by IowaFuzzy1:
$$$$$$$$$$$$ how many more "toys"do you guys want on these things.Everyone gripes about the cost,and in the next breath they're trying to come up with more "trick equipment".Why don't you just sit down and figure out how to make what you got work better and go faster? That's what the guys who are fast now have done.$$$$$$$$$$$$


I agree with that!!!


dexter
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posted November 12, 2005 02:43 PM  

 
Krom, how much do you want to spend?

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