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Todd83C
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posted November 06, 2005 07:00 PM  
Does anyone out there think IMCA would be better if they came up with a spec or creat motor to run in a-mods? It would take care of the claim think. And the guy that couldent afford the high end motor would be just as competetive as the rest, or at least wouldnt get out motor or lose there engine the next week because the guy he claimed was just *****, Just the way i see it

gould
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posted November 06, 2005 07:34 PM  
I would be at a disadvantage due to the fact my car weights a ton. I need a horse just to get it moving. My car weighs 200 lbs more than most of them.

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Mod57
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posted November 06, 2005 08:57 PM  
Why would they need to change the A-mods, when they already have a class that offers what you’re looking for? The new SportMod class has a spec motor rule, with the crate motor as an option. I personally wish they’d leave the A-mods alone. I was very happy to find very few rule changes for 2006. Thank you IMCA, what I ran this year is still legal next year that saved me money. Wish we could have our stud girdles back.

racer17j
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posted November 06, 2005 09:46 PM  
AMEN!!!
TO RACER17J

Ego Racing
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posted November 07, 2005 05:25 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by racer17j:
if they wanted to change to some type of spec then the late model packege they have now would be a better route. a crate motor is not what this class needs. that takes any mopar and fords out ,takes small maintence jobs out of your hands and will be slow boring follow the leader type race'n yes the crate motor has done wonders on paved tracks where the racing is already follow the leader bump you out of the way to pass bore you to death race'n but i don't forsee any 3 wide edge of your seat race'n out of a motor that you can't do anything to and can't turn over 5500 rpm

This is the same argument we hear everywhere the "Crate Motor" is brought up. We run a crate motor Late model.
East Alabama Motor Speedway. We broke a part in the heat, passed 10 care in 9 laps in the B main. Started 28th and finished the feature 10th. Only 2 cars dropped out of both races. This is the same place the Eslands win limited late races with crate motors.
East Bay Raceway. Three weeks ago we started 18th and in 15 laps with 10 to go we were in 4th when the fuel pump went out. Two weeks ago, started 15th and were in 7th when on a double file restart we got punted toward the wall and droped back into 13th with 6 laps left. We finished 6th. This is against there regular Late Models not other crate cars. There weight rule is 2300lbs. We are running at a crate legal 2455lbs.
I am really sick of people saying these cars are SLOW, WONT PASS, Cant carry the tire etc... This mostly comes from people who have.. A. No Idea What They Are Talking About, B. Have Never Seen A Crate Race. C. Got P'd off because a $5200 motor passed there big $$ Motor, or D. Are scared of the idea that they cannot use the excuse that they go out motored by someone with more $$$. They would have to face the fact they cannot drive as good as the other guys.
Before the argument comes up, if you put a crate motor in every car they will all still finish like they do now.. WRONG we have seen Super drivers try to cherry pick the money at crate races and they did not make the main.

Todd83C
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posted November 07, 2005 05:50 AM  
The reason i put this up here is that you get those guys that do nothing but complane about the claim rules. I guess the biggest thing is people claiming for the wrong reason. And if somone does do it for the right reasone if there is one then every one is ***** off at them for that. You see cars that say claim one well claim 2. I have never claimed a motor nor do i plan on it or have a need to just some of the issues i see people have with running imca,

Desert Mod
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posted November 07, 2005 11:32 AM  
I'm with Ego Racing. I'd love to make this all about set up and driving.

Kromulous
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posted November 07, 2005 12:11 PM  
I wouldnt mind crate motors in Mods but make them with some HP. 400 HP is to weak, come out with a engine with about 550hp for mods and about 650 to 700hp for LM's.

At least enough power to make it fun, 400hp in a LM is not, and it doenst even look fun.

andykmod
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posted November 07, 2005 03:57 PM  
Heck no, IMCA already gets enough of our money, Tires, stamped spindles, ect...ect.. I do think the best rule they came up with was getting rid of the roller cams, it seems to tighten up the field a bit. If any thing would have to be a spec in my book it should be the carbs. I run a track with a "open" engine rule and run pretty cheap stuff compared to some people and do alright. I just think the spec engine would open a whole new can of worms. Horsepower only helps win races, Your foot and brain will win races, That's my theroy.

[This message has been edited by andykmod (edited November 07, 2005).]

GRTWallbanger
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posted November 07, 2005 04:05 PM  
I just recieved the new IMCA news paper and rule book.Basically the only change is the Hoosier tire BUT!!!!! It says there will be a change in the engine claim rule, but not descided yet!!!!!!
AMEN to that!!!!!!!!!

andykmod
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posted November 07, 2005 04:09 PM  
Maybe they will make it cheaper...LOL

midmod34
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posted November 07, 2005 04:12 PM  
wissota spec engine costs 13-16000 for 300 to win

street31
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posted November 07, 2005 04:57 PM  
i would think the reason that a wissota motor would cost 13-16000 bucks to win is because enough people have not been claimed. we in michigan have the same problem that the cost to win is way over priced but in the IMCA tracks there are claims every week and guys are putting together time bombs that wont last and nobody is gonna spend $5,000 bucks every week just to get it claimed so that keeps the cost down. racing in michigan has almost totally eliminated super late model cars because of cost, promotors wont pay purses that keep up with costs yet promotors were the one that set up rules that allowed this thing to get out of control. alot of guys are selling their asphalt cars and going dirt. our paved 1/4 mile track 18 lates 22 mods 14 streets 35 4 cylinder cars,1000 people and all of this is down from 45lates,40 mods 38 streets and 2500 people in the stands now the dirt track 1 hour away 70 lates 60 mods 65 streets 3500 people in the stands and standing room only. WHY? our paved track 3/8 30 minutes away no lates, 14 mods 9 streets 7 4 cylinders 150 people in the stands WHY pit pass paved 28 bucks 15 to get into the stands dirt 20 bucks pits, 7-10 to get into the stands COST is the big deal here. any comments?

midmod34
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posted November 07, 2005 06:28 PM  
you cannot claim a wissota spec

racer17j
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posted November 07, 2005 07:17 PM  
from what i have heard the swap option is the change they are talking about. we run outlaw here in town but the guy who won the most races this year was pretty much imca legal his motor was one that was a super nats auction motor.i look at it this way with everything exactly the same that isnot racing that is driving. racing is fun driving is boring. go watch some go kart races thats basicly what your going to have with a spec motor class. as for passing cars i have several nites started20th or worse and finshed 7th-or 8th acully passing no more then 3 cars under racing speeds keep your nose clean and let everybody else beat and bang each other and be in the right place at the right time and it's not hard to do i did it 10 time 2 years ago. thats another bad thing about bunching everybody up the "big one" can happen just as ez on a 1/4 as a 2.5 mile track. rough driving creates just as much bad blood as a claim and can cost as much as well. i don't care what class you run it's all to exspencive no matter what way you slice it but making me buy this and that takes any time i have spent in r/d thats all the spare parts i have been able to build up over the years and could also lose sponsorship deals for a guy so i'm still not seeing the upside to this whole deal

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