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washeduptoo
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 155
posted September 07, 2005 02:03 PM  
Have any of yall seen the new Dirt Works Design? Are they still on a Chevelle clip? I read somewhere they don't have a underslung. Thanks

dirtbuster
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posted September 07, 2005 02:34 PM  
You might be thinking of there SIMS mod. Go to the website and you can see pics of it

Kromulous
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posted September 07, 2005 02:36 PM  
I hear the new design for 06 is over rail design. Also heard its fast, G. Clark has won like 7 out of 11 races with it or something.

Havnt seen one thou.

zeroracing
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posted September 07, 2005 02:47 PM  
I have not seen it, but Personally think that overrail cars are the way to go anymore. I am changing my BMS over too an overrail design.

aggressive
Dirt Full Roller

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posted September 08, 2005 05:33 AM  
its called a DW 11 we have had one for a couple of weeks...probably won't race it till feb. at east bay.It is an overrail with the cage more like a DW 8,wish we had the time to finish it now but to many irons in the fire.

dirtbuster
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posted September 08, 2005 06:53 AM  
aggressive,

can you tell us more about it. What rear setup is it? Is it copied from a late model, if so which one?

any pics of the frame?

thanks

Covert Racing
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 27
posted September 08, 2005 07:27 AM  
DW 10, overslung on a chevelle stub. Multi-link. I have seen 3 of them all doing well.

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washeduptoo
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posted September 08, 2005 08:21 AM  
Thanks for all the information, I guessed they would be on a chevelle clip. Maybe someone down in LA. will get one and I'll take a look at it. Thanks

aggressive
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posted September 08, 2005 08:53 AM  
well i'm not going to argue over 10 or 11 but look at dirtworks site 2005 feature winners and andy claiborne and gary clark are listed as DW 11 we have the same car,the back is 2 inch round tube and it is wider. They have removed at least one bar and relocated a couple of others,ours has the 66 front end so we will use spacers,and I believe u can still get any suspension you want.I don't have a digital camera so I don't have pics maybe Dirtworks will put one up soon.

Rollin Thunder
Dirt Full Roller

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posted September 08, 2005 06:29 PM  
Aggressive is correct...the DW11 is overslung. The 10's had the new main cage but still used an underslung rear clip.

36modracer
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posted September 12, 2005 10:01 AM  
there was a post a week or so ago on 4m on one of the mod pages and jeff leka has a new one and they really liked it.

dirtbuster
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posted September 13, 2005 10:44 AM  
I just took a look at one last night. Looks like an DW8 from the front to just behind the seat then its an overslung rear. There are some minor differences in the cage, but for the most part its an 8. Went back to the 8 style upper control arms as well.

Im not sure about the rear clip yet, it doesnt look all that strong, not what i expected to see anyway. It looks like the same upper bars they just hacked out the lower ones and any bracing with them. The car owner told me it was something they had done on older DW cars.

One thing they did say is that this car does flex well like the 8s, where the 9's seemed very rigid, and touchy on setup. Time will tell.....

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dirtzone
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posted September 14, 2005 05:45 AM  
Does DW use Chevelle fronts w/ Pinto spindles or is it all Chevelle?

psycho47
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posted September 14, 2005 06:12 AM  
Yes the use 64-67 and 68-72 chevelle fronts with the pinto spindles.

2nd2none
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posted September 21, 2005 11:41 PM  
We went to Clinton, OK this past weekend for the $20k show. We had a spot saved with the dirtworks cars so I got a good ear full from Scott Drake, Gary and Mike.

The DW-11s are almost a completely new designed chassis front to rear. The main cage is moved forward 2 inches with the S bar along the interior floor pan like the DW-7's. The rear clip is a 2 inch tube non-underslung car with the top down bars from the halo to the tail. They have changed bars on the right side of the car along with bars on the front end. They have changed the front geometry also.

The idea with these cars is the front end hooks up so well you dont need 58-59% rear anymore. Thats why the cage is moved forward and the rear underslung bars are removed. You can drive these cars in hard and the frontend will keep the car down increasing momentum through the corner so you dont need all that rear percent to come off.

Gary's car had 56% rear (short 2 link) and Scott's car was around 55.6% (short 2 link)

edit: the reason the cars went from a DW-9 to DW-11 is Mike couldnt get the stamping machine to line up the 0 with the 1 so he skipped it and went with 11

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dirtbuster
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posted September 22, 2005 05:50 AM  
I think they also moved the cage 2" to the left as well. Talked to a guy that has one last week at the track and he really liked his so far. also on short 2 link and he also said he was only running about 54-55% rear, but about 1% more left than he used to.

The snake bar is back from the dw-8 cars, the left side door bars are different, the upper cage bars and halo are like the 8's, the x in the bottom is completely different. Running another show this weekend with them so I hope to get a better look at them. Also i think maybe Gart mightbe there as well so I'll get some more info.

washeduptoo
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posted September 22, 2005 06:19 AM  
Thanks guys, sounds like DW guys aren't standing still. Do yall know if any of the guys are running a 4-2 set up? Maybe I'll get to see one before year is out. I heard Clark and Drake are going to be at the Piney Woods Classic,can anyone confirm this? Thanks again.

dirtbuster
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posted September 22, 2005 09:34 AM  
Everyone I have heard of is short 2 link car. Dirtworks seems to shy away from the 4 link stuff. Most of the guys in a DW going fast on 4 link are doing it themselves. but thats my opinion....

GRTWallbanger
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posted September 22, 2005 09:43 AM  
So if i was looking to maybe get a used a DW car.Would i want a DW 8 as my first choice??
Over a 7 or a 9?
I want to get rid of the 4-bar and go to a 2-link!!!!

dirtbuster
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posted September 22, 2005 11:40 AM  
I dont know anything about the 7. The 9 arent bad depends on who you talk to. Some like them some hate them. They are prob a little touchier on setup though, no matter whether its 4 link ro 2 link. We have a 9 and have gotten along pretty well with it, its also our first 4 link car so it took a little learning there too. I think the chassis is just a little too stiff overall for a dirt car. Overall a good straight 8 would prob be a good place to start, but I wouldnt rule out a 9.

We've had 2 8's and a 9. The first 8 was great, the second one not as much and the 9 has been good and getting better. I think we might look at getting into a new car though next year, so our 9 might be for sale.

2nd2none
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posted September 22, 2005 11:04 PM  
Scott Drake told me last weekend the reason him and Gary run 2 links is "if you travel alot buy a 2 link, they're easier to dial in for each track. If you run one track buy a 4 link." Scott also said the only reason he has 4 bar brackets on his car is for resale value.

We was behind Terry Phillips waiting for tech. He had a 2 link short swingarm setup on the LR, 4bar clamped spring behind on the RR. I didnt get to look at the Taylor-Shaw chassis, other than from a distance and these are non-underslung cars.

Kromulous
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posted September 23, 2005 06:51 AM  
4 Bar, and a Clamped coilover behind?

2nd2none
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posted September 24, 2005 04:12 AM  
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Originally posted by Kromulous:
4 Bar, and a Clamped coilover behind?


From what I saw, the RR was 4bar setup with the spring on a slider behind on cage with shock infront. I'm pretty sure it was clamped because RR behind on unclamped cage is like taking the RR spring off, and his car had absolutely no body roll, or hike at all, it stayed completely flat all weekend long.........so did the shaw-taylor cars........makes you think they are on to something here

BrianW
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 385
posted September 26, 2005 02:42 PM  
Anyone have a new DW-11 in/near Kansas City that I could come take a look at???

Covert Racing
Dirt Full Roller

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posted September 26, 2005 03:56 PM  
Kerry Davis and Gary Clark will be at Lakeside on Friday and Saturday. Kerry just won at Thunderhill on Saturday.

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