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imca11
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 10
posted August 17, 2005 04:49 AM  
car goes in great ..little free in the appex (need to lift just a little) then i can continue to roll back into the throttle,great off the corner, need some help with the appex any suggestions?little more cross wieght help this?the car if fast and want to make it even faster if i can fix this little problem......thanks

imca11
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 10
posted August 17, 2005 04:55 AM  
sorry,its a 2-link j-bar car small 3/8 dry slick pretty flat track. heres my tire temps after a 6 lap heat..very little miosture in track. LF 89-87-85 RF93-99-98
LR 104-104-105 RR121-119-116

wfoondirt
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Total posts: 505
posted August 17, 2005 06:55 AM  
Based on the rr tire temps I'm guessing your running alot of stagger.

Less stagger and lower panhard bar should tighten the apex.

imca11
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 10
posted August 17, 2005 03:13 PM  
the staggar was at 1 inch,the panard bar is as low as i can get it.on pinion and chassis
thanks for the reply

imca11
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 10
posted August 17, 2005 03:41 PM  
1 inch of staggar,panard bar is as low as i can get it on both pinion,chassis

nut3d
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 331
posted August 17, 2005 07:00 PM  
this may sound crazy here but what would happen if he ran reverse stagger on the rear

wfoondirt
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posted August 18, 2005 08:05 AM  
The track must be pretty flat or your running some pretty low air pressures to get your rr tire temps to look like that. Either that or your waiting too long to take the temps and the brake heat is affecting your readings.

If he needs to run reverse stagger on a flat track he has other issues that should be addressed. The only time I ever see reverse stagger is on a high bank.

I would take a look at your front r/c. If your having to run the rear that low the front may be too high. You may also want to look at how much roll steer you getting at mid corner and find a way to reduce it, either by reducing body roll or with more rr spring rate. A front spring change may also be warranted depending upon where you are at now.

nut3d
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 331
posted August 18, 2005 09:24 AM  
the track imca11 runs at is pretty flat. I'll be running the same track but fighten problems with my own car and only made it out once but my set up is a tad bit differnt then his.

artie727
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 26
posted August 18, 2005 09:47 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by nut3d:
the track imca11 runs at is pretty flat. I'll be running the same track but fighten problems with my own car and only made it out once but my set up is a tad bit differnt then his.

Aaron have you moved from Florida yet? What kinda car problems ya got?

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Artie Perilloux
A & M Motorsports

nut3d
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 331
posted August 18, 2005 10:43 AM  
ya artie i moved from FL in june of 04 i just graduated college on the 5th. havin to much fuel pressure was my main problem my regulator took a dump on me so i went back and put a stock pump back on and hope fully that will fix my problem. anyways man how's mickey and lil mickey runnin heard u gonna get another mod. u ever get that running

artie727
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 26
posted August 18, 2005 11:37 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by nut3d:
ya artie i moved from FL in june of 04 i just graduated college on the 5th. havin to much fuel pressure was my main problem my regulator took a dump on me so i went back and put a stock pump back on and hope fully that will fix my problem. anyways man how's mickey and lil mickey runnin heard u gonna get another mod. u ever get that running

Lil Mickey is doing well in the Super Stock class down here and Big Mickey is waiting on me to finish my mod. It's almost ready to take it apart and get the chassis blasted and painted. They coulda made a full season of television shows of me building a modified as slow as I work.

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Artie Perilloux
A & M Motorsports

nut3d
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 331
posted August 18, 2005 12:05 PM  
thats good to hear. **** man the season almost over lol. anyways i'm goin bak home in Feb. to run run a couple big races

imca11
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 10
posted August 18, 2005 04:19 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by wfoondirt:
The track must be pretty flat or your running some pretty low air pressures to get your rr tire temps to look like that. Either that or your waiting too long to take the temps and the brake heat is affecting your readings.

If he needs to run reverse stagger on a flat track he has other issues that should be addressed. The only time I ever see reverse stagger is on a high bank.

I would take a look at your front r/c. If your having to run the rear that low the front may be too high. You may also want to look at how much roll steer you getting at mid corner and find a way to reduce it, either by reducing body roll or with more rr spring rate. A front spring change may also be warranted depending upon where you are at now.


the track is almost flat,the tire temps are done right after i park it in the pits,i have a lot of body roll,cant get sidebite without it for some reason,if i stiffen the rr spring will it loosen the car up all the way through the turn? thanks

donslink1
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 318
posted August 18, 2005 04:53 PM  
stiffer rr will take some drive away but it will give you side bite.

imca11
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 10
posted August 18, 2005 08:10 PM  
the rr is rated at 182,could i try a spring rubber out first or just stiffin it by replaceing the spring

FlyNLoIMCA17
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posted August 18, 2005 08:21 PM  
you can try a spring rubber first. I use them myself. But be sure to scale the car after you put the rubber in. Because it will change the wheel weights, so put the rubber in and adjust to get your scale #'s right.

dirtywrench13
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 324
posted August 19, 2005 10:30 AM  
ADD A POUND OR TWO OF AIR TO THELEFT FRONT TIRE,AND HALF A POUND OF AIR IN THE RR.

CLBaker25
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 193
posted August 19, 2005 02:32 PM  
If the spring is rating out at a 182 was it originally a 200# or a 175 that was cut down? I would think that a spring that was either losing rate or cut down could be the problem?

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