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bumpa84
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 8
posted August 08, 2005 04:45 PM  
need to get forward bite quicker

viper3244
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 57
posted August 08, 2005 08:37 PM  
NEED MORE INFO WHAT ARE YOU RUNNING IF IT IS 4-BAR DO YOU RUN A PLUG? REMEMBER IT IS A GIVE AND TAKE. THE FASTS WAY OUT OF THE CORNER IS GOOD ENTRY AND KEEPING UP MOMENTUM. POST MORE INFO AND YOU WILL GET REPLIES.

bumpa84
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 8
posted August 08, 2005 08:52 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by viper3244:
NEED MORE INFO WHAT ARE YOU RUNNING IF IT IS 4-BAR DO YOU RUN A PLUG? REMEMBER IT IS A GIVE AND TAKE. THE FASTS WAY OUT OF THE CORNER IS GOOD ENTRY AND KEEPING UP MOMENTUM. POST MORE INFO AND YOU WILL GET REPLIES.

I'm running a 4bar/zlink with a progressive pullbar also a j-bar with 5" stgr, even with the pinion

bumpa84
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 8
posted August 08, 2005 09:01 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by bumpa84:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by viper3244:
[b]NEED MORE INFO WHAT ARE YOU RUNNING IF IT IS 4-BAR DO YOU RUN A PLUG? REMEMBER IT IS A GIVE AND TAKE. THE FASTS WAY OUT OF THE CORNER IS GOOD ENTRY AND KEEPING UP MOMENTUM. POST MORE INFO AND YOU WILL GET REPLIES.


I'm running a 4bar/zlink with a progressive pullbar also a j-bar with 5" stgr, even with the pinion, also has calipers locked with full floating birdcages. Left side 200# in back, rt. side 175# ahead of housing[/B][/QUOTE]

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dogwalker
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 65
posted August 09, 2005 01:23 PM  
More angle in the pull bar should give you quicker bite. As mentioned above, you could use plugs. One on the bottom left and one on the top right rear with shorter bars. Good luck.


andykmod
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 351
posted August 09, 2005 02:21 PM  
Maybe more lr spring 225-250 range. Or lower the upper bar down on the birdcage closer to the axle tube this will give you a much quicker bite but you will lose some chassis lift.

[This message has been edited by andykmod (edited August 09, 2005).]

bumpa84
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 8
posted August 09, 2005 05:29 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by dogwalker:
More angle in the pull bar should give you quicker bite. As mentioned above, you could use plugs. One on the bottom left and one on the top right rear with shorter bars. Good luck.


I'm not familiar with plugs. More info. would be appreciated, thanks.

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washeduptoo
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 155
posted August 09, 2005 09:10 PM  
Plugs are nothing more than a bracket that you bolt to your frame brackets, this allows you to use shorter bars for quicker action. Hope this helps.

viper3244
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 57
posted August 09, 2005 10:18 PM  
You have several options. depending on what size track you run on. I run a DW8 on a big half with the same 4-bar/z-link floated the same with a j-bar and progressive spring. currently using 5" plug on the lower left and a 1/4" preload on the pull bar spring. I removed the 9010 from the pullber and it helped a bit. I think that the short bar with the plug gives it faster forward bite. where as a longer bar gives the same amount of bite just not as fast but longer down the straight. There is a give and take to get a little more of something you have to take away something else. As mentioned above the standard bar length for our car would 17" instead I have a plug (or extension from the mount on the frame that reaches 5" back towards the rear end) and then we use a 12" bar in place. This will get you up on the bars quicker giving quicker forward bite. If your driving style fits this set up you can get alot of passing done from the center to exit of the corner. What kind of chassis do you run?

bumpa84
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 8
posted August 10, 2005 03:58 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by viper3244:
You have several options. depending on what size track you run on. I run a DW8 on a big half with the same 4-bar/z-link floated the same with a j-bar and progressive spring. currently using 5" plug on the lower left and a 1/4" preload on the pull bar spring. I removed the 9010 from the pullber and it helped a bit. I think that the short bar with the plug gives it faster forward bite. where as a longer bar gives the same amount of bite just not as fast but longer down the straight. There is a give and take to get a little more of something you have to take away something else. As mentioned above the standard bar length for our car would 17" instead I have a plug (or extension from the mount on the frame that reaches 5" back towards the rear end) and then we use a 12" bar in place. This will get you up on the bars quicker giving quicker forward bite. If your driving style fits this set up you can get alot of passing done from the center to exit of the corner. What kind of chassis do you run?
I'm Running a rare Hotchkiss chassis. It has a 69 Chevelle clip and is very similiar to a Harris


viper3244
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 57
posted August 11, 2005 02:12 PM  
NOT SURE ABOUT A HOTCHKISS CAR BUT I KNOW A FEW GUYS THAT ARE ROCKET FAST WITH HARRIS CARS. AS LONG AS YOUR RIDE HEIGHTS AND SUCH ARE ON TARGET I WOULD TRY THE PLUG ON THE BOTTOM LEFT YOU SHOULD SEE A NOTICEABLE DIFFERENCE. SOME OF THE DOWN FALLS THAT I CAN TELL IS THAT THE CAR IS MORE TWITCHY IN THE CORNER, A BIT HARDER TO BE SMOOTH, BUT WHEN YOU GET YOUR TIMING DOWN IT WILL COME OFF WITH GREAT FORWARD BITE. YOU COULD ALSO CHECK THE TRAVEL ON YOUR PULLBAR TO MAKE SURE THE SHOCK ISN'T RUNNING RUNNING OUT OF TRAVEL LIMITING YOUR ROTATION. ARE YOU RUNNING COIL OVERS, OR ELIMINATORS?

viper3244
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 57
posted August 11, 2005 02:16 PM  
IF YOU PUT A PLUG IN MAKE SURE IT IS VERY STRONG I HAVE RIPPED OUT TWO IN THE PAST. I NOW USE VERY HEAVY STEEL TO MAKE THESE. I LEARNED THE HARDWAY THIS IS NOT A GOOD PLACE TO MAKE SOMETHING LIGHTER! I CAN SEND YOU A PIC OF IT IF IT WILL HELP..

dluna
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 334
posted August 11, 2005 03:03 PM  
My plug came apart this weekend on my 3link. The mount pulled right out of the base where it hooks to the frame. NASTY!

Make them strong!!!

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