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Kromulous
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posted July 25, 2005 07:22 AM  
Gotta couple questions on steering boxes. The 605 boxes are the fastest correct? at 14:1. 82-92 camaro z28's i believe.

How many turns is that lock to lock?

Are there any others that are reasonably quick that are plentifull? What year cars are they from?

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rpm20
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posted July 25, 2005 07:25 AM  
i use the ones form the big car group 1972-1980 they have a 4 bolt top and are 3 turns lock to lock. they work great with my 1.5 to 1 quicksteer

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Covert Racing
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posted July 25, 2005 07:31 AM  
605's are not faster, they are lighter. There is a faster box, without doing some research. I can't remember off the top of my head.

Kromulous
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posted July 25, 2005 11:48 AM  
We have to replace our steering box, and wanted to up the speed of the steering at the same time. 14:1 is the fastest i ever heard of, put i imagine there is better.

Anyone ever use some of the old Nascar boxes that sell on Ebay? I assume they are on the same bolt pattern as the saginaw ones.

leapinlizard
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posted July 25, 2005 12:00 PM  
Interanal stops will reek havoc with the lock ot lock method. the fastest box ratio is the 12:1 box. You can find then on Monte SS, camaro iroc, or z28 with the 16" wheel package. As well as others. Good luck finding one from a salvage yard though. You might be better off looking to AGR power steering company.

ss99
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posted July 25, 2005 02:41 PM  
Like the lizard said, the 12:1 boxes are the fastest, and you can't tell one from another using the stop-to-stop method.

I got mine from a z-28 at a junkyard, but Speedway sells them in 12:1 as well - rebuilt.

Kromulous
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posted July 25, 2005 03:18 PM  
Couldnt find any one the speed way site, says 4 turns lock to lock is that the ones?

topnotch
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posted July 25, 2005 03:20 PM  
try psc steering from weatherford, tx. Definitely the best box i have ever used. the number is 817 270 0102. they are very reasonable and work very well, I'm sure tom could answer any questions you might have.

racer17j
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posted July 25, 2005 05:12 PM  
car-part.com

You can find a used one.

Camaro_Dude_1991
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posted July 25, 2005 06:57 PM  
I'm in Cincinnati Ohio.

GRTWallbanger
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posted July 26, 2005 12:26 PM  
The part # from NAPA for the IROC box is 276530.It shows 3-4 tunrs lock to lock.
The part # for the standard Metric(Monte Carlo,cutlass,or Z-28 etc.)Is 276550 and it shows 2 1/2 to 3 turns lock to lock?
If this is correct then the IROC box is slower????

leapinlizard
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posted July 26, 2005 01:44 PM  
The internal stops WILL dictate how many turns to lock not the ratio. That's what the term "lock" means. Z28 cars have wider wheels and can't turn as far before the tires hit the fender's. You wouldn't want that brand new car to s****e the fender everytime you took a sharp corner would you? No, so you install stops or "locks" to prevent this. My truck has a 13:1/17:1 variable ratio and still has 3 turns to lock. I also said the Z cars with 16" wheels. Not all did. Most though.

Camaro_Dude_1991
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posted July 26, 2005 09:48 PM  
What happen when your box goes bad? Does it become hard to steer? I bought new pump but still very very hard to steer.
thanks

AZ Mod82
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posted July 27, 2005 08:38 PM  
77-79 camaro z28 are 14.1 the GM part # is 7833309 the Hollander Interchange # 1115,1192 80-81 Z28 is also a 14.1 GM part # 7833147 Hollander # is 1195 and last place you will find a 14.1 box is a 80-81 Firebird & Trans-AM. GM# 7848140 Hollander# 1215 Hopes this helps.
SEAN.

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dirtTurd
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posted July 28, 2005 08:43 AM  
BTT

dirtTurd
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posted July 28, 2005 08:54 AM  
BTT

i8uracing
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posted July 28, 2005 09:25 AM  
I had the problem of changing to a new (rebuilt) steeing box and it turn very hard. The problem was that I hadn't bled the air out. I took the top off of the reservoir turned the wheel back and forth several times and then it worked like a champ.

dirtTurd
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posted July 28, 2005 09:28 AM  
i'll give that a try tonight...
thanks

rrrrick
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posted July 29, 2005 09:49 AM  
Can be different problems making a car hard to turn, bound up quick steer, bound up steering shaft, loose P/S belts or bad pump


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