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seabiscuit
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 15
posted June 08, 2005 08:13 AM  
has anyone had two cars recently that had a metric stub and a chevelle stub and what were the pros and cons of each. Also how would you describe your driving style- smooth or more aggressive and what type of tracks do you run on- tacky or dryslick...it seems like most chassis builders are using the chevelle clip but I've seen some fast grt and pierce cars and just wondering why more people don't use the metric clip.

dirtbuster
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 2007
posted June 08, 2005 08:37 AM  
I think the metric can be fast, but without a doubt the chevelle has the better geometry to wrok with. Thats why most builders use them.

It seems like I remember reading somewhere that the 90's Ford Crown vic stub is pretty good too. Maybe 'Custom Performance' could add to this.

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dirtywrench13
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 324
posted June 08, 2005 08:44 AM  
WE'VE HAD THE CHEVELLE STUB FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND WENT TO THE BIG METRIC, IN MY OPINION THE BIG METRIC IS THE WAY TO GO IF THE CAR BUILDER KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING.PLUS THEY AREN'T NEARLY AS HARD TO FIND PARTS FOR, AND DON'T BEND AS EASY. OURS HAS KISSED THE WALL REALLY HARD,AND BEEN ON IT'S LID ALREADY, AND WAS STILL RACEABLE AS IS! (IT SAW THE FRAME MACHINE ANYWAY)

Kromulous
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Total posts: 796
posted June 08, 2005 09:20 AM  
We run the Ford, i like it pretty well. The bump steer is great. Stock chevy gear boxes bolt up to it and the parts are pretty easy to find.

If i were buying new, i think i would like to have the chevelle. Requires some parts to set up right, pinto spindles, mono ball lower ball joint, smalle metric calipers & mounts etc. The geometry seems good on them thou, and alot of guys run them.


dirtzone
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 102
posted June 14, 2005 08:39 PM  
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dirtywrench13:
[B]WE'VE HAD THE CHEVELLE STUB FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND WENT TO THE BIG METRIC, IN MY OPINION THE BIG METRIC IS THE WAY TO GO IF THE CAR BUILDER KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING.

Is the big metric the same as the mid 70's monte? I have a car that was built with a big metric ( I think) and was told the big monte, certain camaro, and of course impala stuff would all work. The guy I got it from said he didn't know anything other than big monte lowers are what he used. Thanks!

IowaFuzzy1
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 136
posted June 15, 2005 12:52 AM  
You may have a car that was built on 73 to 76 impala,there used to be quite a few of them in this area(northern Ia.)Big metric is 77 to early 90s Impala and 77 to 84 fullsize Buick,Olds & Pontiac.Small metric is 78 to 87 mid size G.M.Either of the metric frames are by far the toughest.I personally feel that the small metric are a little tougher than the wide(I own a frame shop and straighten these things)The chevelle has a geometry advantage but they all can be made to work if you do your homework!!

rrrrick
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 192
posted June 15, 2005 11:11 AM  
Every frame has built in advantages and disadvantages.
I perfer the midsize metric frame ( 78-87 monte carlo or Grand prix style) for the availablity of stock front end parts. We race it with original spindles, lowers and tie-rods.
I have a 69 chevelle frame car too, that has a mix and match of front end parts, ford lowers, pinto spindles, unknown pitman arm, different idler arm etc.

racer17j
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posted June 15, 2005 07:11 PM  
Something that I've always wondered about is why are so many tracks not allowing guys to run tubed front clips? We are allowed to run a tube front clip as long as all the stock front end parts will bolt up in the stock location. One advantage to this that I see is that if you do hit the wall, you only have to replace the one section of bent tubing. With a stock camaro or metric clip you either re-clip the car or you ruin a front clip to replace the section that you need. Just an observation.

wissota3x
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 86
posted June 15, 2005 09:52 PM  
It will make expensive cars with stock clips obsolete.All the sanctioning bodies,(IMCA ,WISSOTA,UMP etc.)would have to follow the same direction.Right now most cars will cross over from one sanction to the other which makes it nice for the chassis builders. It also helps market used cars easier. The same subject could go on and on about quick changes.We all know that in the long run it is cheaper and easier to have a quick change than a 9 inch. Right now I like the fact that with a few inexpensive changes I can race across America with out having three different cars.

dirtzone
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 102
posted June 16, 2005 03:45 AM  
So, is it the big metric that accepts camaro AND big monte lowers? Is there any way to identify the front?

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