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Author Topic:   getting rid of the wall fear
rpm20
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posted April 28, 2005 06:37 AM  
i know this will sound silly and most wouldnt admit to it but,
in the last 2 seasons i tagged the wall on turn 4 corner exit twice,
the 1st time i flipped the car and the second time i bent the rearend bad on opening night.
i know other folks have been through this so i am asking for input.
i noticed during practice that i tend to stay back from the wall now (some of it due to a bad push , some i think is fear) and it hurts my corner entry.
how have others overcome this thing

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dirtbuster
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posted April 28, 2005 07:55 AM  
I know it sounds silly but until you run up against the wall again you prob wont feel comforatable. 2 years ago my driver did the same thing got turned into the wall and rolled it 5 times. He wouldnt admit it but you could tell it bothered him to run up close to it after that. Then one night he come out of 4 real hard pushed up a little tapped the wall, and it has never bothered him since.

rpm20
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posted April 28, 2005 08:09 AM  
thanks for the input, we dont like to admit these things but they are real man.

zeroracing
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posted April 28, 2005 08:56 AM  
Knock it down!!!
just joking, just try to work your way up the track in practice.

rpm20
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posted April 28, 2005 09:08 AM  
thanks zero, thats the plan

zeroracing
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posted April 28, 2005 09:29 AM  
you would be suprised how many drivers are affraid of walls, so dont feel bad. one guy i race with is scared of tracks with walls all the way around them, they make him feel too confiined I guess. I have never really had the problem with the wall, i guess because dad always hit it when he raced, so it seemed natural to run beside it and bounce off it a few times. or maybe i am too young and stuipid

NJantz
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posted April 28, 2005 10:03 AM  
I'd just take my car out there during mud laps and put the right side right up against it and slowly increase speed til your not afraid of it no more.

When ever I want to adjust the car while out on the track, I just bang the wall with the RR. Bends the jbar everytime. Car tightens up after that too.


dirtbuster
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posted April 28, 2005 10:52 AM  
Its good that you are aware its there, but you also need to become confident that you can keep the car away from it. Next time you tap it slightly and someone asks you about it, dont say you 'hit'the wall, tell them you 'used' the wall. has a little better ring to it.


I think the best thing most tracks could do is put a wall all around. Our track is only walled on the front stretch, and you get guys that blow into turn 1 and 2 because they know if the car doestn stick they just slip off and drive it back on the back stretch,,, that is if they dont take somebody out in the process. IF there was a wall there they would all use there heads a little more.

36modracer
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posted April 28, 2005 11:02 AM  
i dont like racing without one because i cant judge the corners well enough. over the years ive run high and low but the last several cars were bottom feeding cars and never turned good enough. this new hoffman car turns in great and does so all the way through the corners so i feel like i can trust it to run high now. have a little this year so far but not alot. several guys at our local tracks rub it all the time and run right up there and go in high and hard but i guess that comes with not only trusting the car, but having one that will turn and keep on coming.

Mastersbilt05
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posted April 28, 2005 02:48 PM  
Keep in mind that the closer you are to it the softer the lick you will take. If your at the bottom of the track and you push up kiss that chassis goodbye. I have always had a problem with the wall in turn 2 at Batesville. Catches me everytime. Im not saying run close to it if it isnt the fast way around but if it is. The closer the less impact.

63sportsman
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posted April 28, 2005 05:33 PM  
Concrete doesn't bother me(hit it hard a few times LOL), but guard rail style walls do, I got turned into one exiting the corner 2 years ago, me and another car (the on that turned me) hit it, he went right through it(bottom rail was sitting on his air cleaner), but I was right beside him and I centered the post! It is one of the worst impacts that I have had because when I hit I stoped fast and it sprung me backward about 40 feet back across the track. Had a sore neck for a good week after that. Anyhow the first thing I do is run right up there again in any practice or hotlaps to get comfortable again.

The Vanburen Rocket 22
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posted April 29, 2005 11:50 PM  
You do what a bull rider does when he gets thrown off of the bull, You get back up and ride the &^%$ thing again! You musta have ran there against the wall before with out hitting the wall,and you can do it again!! We all have hit the wall before if we have drove very long, it is just part of our sport. You just got to go back up there and run it again, and get your confidence back!! After a few laps you wont realize you are running that close to it!!

leapinlizard
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posted April 30, 2005 06:35 PM  
When I started driving last year, No one told me how big or fast fast the wall comes. I'm still a little nervous. I haven't hit it yet.

pbrcowboy2
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posted May 03, 2005 09:27 AM  
i was nervous but i got used to it real quick why? maybe because i found for somereason right next to the wall i could find some traction!!!

A&M Motorsports
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posted May 03, 2005 09:33 AM  
I can honestly say that my driver or his son has no fear of the wall. The only one I think gets scared is me watching them race up there. I have seen some real good passes by both of them running the high grove when everyone else is trying to run the bottom.

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Artie Perilloux
A & M Motorsports

spde
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posted May 05, 2005 01:42 AM  
I wish I could tell you how many times I've riped my spoiler off by rubbing the wall. I have flipped twice and crashed head on once. You still cann't keep me on the bottom of the track. Some drivers are fearless with the wall. My best friend cann't run the high line, but he does great down low. What I'm saying is take your time, cars and lives are more important than no fear. Also if you run a track with concrete barrier type walls, you can ride the walls on the straights it gives you about 4-5 more inchs. I do agree with masterbuilt the closer you run to the wall the less, oh ****, time there is.

James Birmingham
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posted May 05, 2005 06:27 PM  
I coached Baseball for my sons teams and the best way to beat a fear is to own up to it, then figure how to deal with it. When the guys were 10 and 11 they were afraid of a grounder taking a bad hop and bouncing up and hitting them. First thing I told them was if the ball hit them it was going to hurt, a lot. Then I showed them how to handle a hot shot. That if they stopped it and made the out at first it would hurt a whole lot less. Then I showed them how to use their hand and block it away from their face. Did any of this stop it from hurting? **** no but the howls when they got the out at the base always put a smile on their faces.
Nobody has to tell you its their and its gonna hurt. I been on the wall at the old Muskogee on two wheels. Head hurt elbow hurt shoulder hurt. Pit crew put new parts on and were waiting for me to go back out in the feature. Unsure and not wanting to hurt any more I stayed low coming off 4 the rest of the night. Next week I was at Ft Smith and tore the right front completly off. If thats the fast way around you have to make it work up there. I agree the closer you run to it the less the impact. But no one else can do it but you.

Kromulous
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posted May 06, 2005 07:01 AM  
I think the first part of the battle, is admitting you have this problem / issue. Which you faced up to.


b4racing
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posted May 06, 2005 11:28 AM  
Remember the wall is your friend. But for real after I fit the wall I was scared of the track until I raced it a couple of times. I hit the wall so hard it busted my block and my trannie. As others said you have to get back and do it again. Have the attitude I know your there you ugly son of a but here I come. It worked for me.

HERNDON
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posted May 07, 2005 08:43 AM  
I never noticed the wall until I hit it!!!

speedy46
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posted May 07, 2005 09:02 AM  
there are walls on race tracks???? HOLY SHEET

rpm20
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posted May 12, 2005 04:04 AM  
ran on tues night and practiced running right next to the wall, the car was great and i even s****ed it a few times but the fear is gone,what a blast it was to run up there again and drop into the corners, it really helps, thanks guys.

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