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Author Topic:   4bar goat...bound up
star1modified
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 102
posted April 05, 2005 08:04 AM  
pulled shocks and eliminators off and bc's are free...both springs and shocks are clamped and both sets of bars are floating...90/10 and progressive spring pull bar...200 lr and 175 rr. It is just too dang stiff...not getting hardly any roll or shock travel.

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James Birmingham
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 28
posted April 05, 2005 09:01 AM  
What type of Panhard bar do you have and how do you have it mounted and angled?

star1modified
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 102
posted April 05, 2005 09:04 AM  
jbar...second hole up on pinion...chassis mount three inches above that...

Ego Racing
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 724
posted April 05, 2005 05:41 PM  
Are the shocks and eliminators mounted in exactly the same angle and inlime with each other? Any off set would cause a bind.

udecide66
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 229
posted April 05, 2005 07:08 PM  
If you are using the Birdcages with the Nylon sleeve...Make sure you have at least .028" clearance between the Nylon and BC all the way around it....028" to .038" is reccomended. Be sure to diassemble and clean them every 3-5 races, or more if needed.

rpm20
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 338
posted April 06, 2005 08:46 AM  
i had a similar situation and found that when my car rear steered , the panhard bar was hitting the rearend and stopping its travel.

rrrrick
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 192
posted April 06, 2005 09:38 AM  
Also make sure your drive shaft isn't bottoming out on your transmission. that will stop the travel too.


star1modified
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 102
posted April 06, 2005 10:30 AM  
took off the 90/10, put the lr eliminator behind, put the rr in front, checked everything now have plenty of travel...so what did it?

dirtmod0
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 143
posted April 06, 2005 10:36 AM  
are the heims on the eliminator bent, maybe they were bottoming out on ur bolt

rpm20
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 338
posted April 06, 2005 11:30 AM  
maybe the 90/10 was bottomed out or the eliminator on the lr was hitting the axle.

quote:
Originally posted by star1modified:
took off the 90/10, put the lr eliminator behind, put the rr in front, checked everything now have plenty of travel...so what did it?


dirtywrench13
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 324
posted April 06, 2005 11:38 AM  
pitch the eliminators and make it have freestanding coils.

star1modified
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 102
posted April 06, 2005 12:14 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by dirtmod0:
are the heims on the eliminator bent, maybe they were bottoming out on ur bolt

everything is fine and it was bound up sittin in the shop not on the track...the rr eliminator is an afco with the bearings and it had galded the shaft...it was on a crazy angle...the car made the dirtworks championship at Batesville just how it sat last year... I dunno.


FlyNLoIMCA17
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 753
posted April 06, 2005 08:42 PM  
Mine was bound up last year sitting in the shop and it turned out to be the eliminators. Thats why when the new coil over kits came out I bought some. No more bind. But the shocks I was running were old and brittle and the LR heim broke off last weekend. I ordered 2 new shocks and I'll see how that does but the coil overs seem to put a TREMENDOUS amount of pressure on the shocks. Has anyone else had any problems with these? Like I said it was b/c my shocks were old so I'll find out more when I get my new shocks.

Dman
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 270
posted April 07, 2005 08:11 AM  
FlyNLo,
Now that you are running the coil overs the LR shock is now taking all the stress when the LR lifts and tops out the shock (full extension)in other words you have turned the left rear shock into a slide hammer. When the left rear hits maximum extension it pops the end off. You need to slow down the extension or put on a travel limiter if you can legally. The eliminators were probablly taking the abuse before. Welded bearing end shocks don't take this abuse too long. When a coil over breaks on the rear it tears up alot of stuff. I'll do the maintenance on my Howe bronze bushed eliminators and risk not looking cool.

FlyNLoIMCA17
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 753
posted April 07, 2005 04:27 PM  
With my car raised up and the axle housing resting on the underslung the shock doesn't top out. I got my new shocks today and I'll be putting them on this weekend and then I'll re-check EVERYTHING to make sure nothing is hitting the shock or bottoming it out. Then if it breaks again I will be putting the eliminators back on it. I hope these coil overs will work, b/c thats ALOT less maintanence and bind on my car.

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