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xhubby
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posted April 04, 2005 07:59 PM  
Looking at buying a set of lower priced scales. Which ones are the best for the money? Speedway Motors has the 1 Weigh, & the Intercomp E-Z scales for $999.95. Which one would be the best, or is there other brands for the same money that are better? Thanks

FlyNLoIMCA17
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posted April 04, 2005 08:06 PM  
I have a set of the Intercomp EZ weigh scales. They work great, I love them. Very well built, worth every penny!

sdracer12
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posted April 04, 2005 09:41 PM  
I bought a new set of Intercomp scales last year and they work perfectly. Easy to zero, and they display all the info you need. I bought the $1200 set, with 16 setup storage, and the billet pads. I don't think you will be disappointed with a set of Intercomps.

BigBlueFord
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posted April 05, 2005 07:36 PM  
I'd go with the Rebco 1 Weigh. We've had really good luck with ours. Five years and no problems.

Stay away from Longacre. Seems like around here the guys with Longacre scales are always borrowing ours because their are not working.

Istock66
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posted April 05, 2005 08:21 PM           send a private message to BigBlueFord   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
I would call longacre and see if they have any trade ins.

I paid 1000 for a used set that belonged to some cup team.

No matter what I would buy some that showed all 4 corners and all percents at the same time, I had some first that I had to select a percent and that was a drag.

Xtreme12x
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posted April 05, 2005 08:24 PM  
1000 for used scales???? We got our set of Intercomp's from Schroeder Racing Products new for 950, has a screen that shows all wheel weights, then hit a button and it brings up percents, hit another and it brings up left, rear, cross and lr bite

Istock66
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posted April 06, 2005 06:51 AM           send a private message to Xtreme12x   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
I dont have blue light specials like you do xtreme.

My scales new were 2200 last I looked a couple years ago.

I dont have to push any buttons ever, unless I want to save the set up, which I then have to push 2 buttons and can save 10 I think.

And I have to push buttons to do my center of gravity on them.

Xtreme12x
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posted April 06, 2005 08:42 AM  
I don't think there "Blue Light SPecials" That is the only option they don't have, is saving setups which I could really care less about. Like I said, why pay a grand for used when you can have new for the same price. Performance Bodies is still running a special on the scales I bought too, I think there still 999.00 there. The pads are billet Aluminum, and the setup is pretty easy to use. Scales really do not need to be the all out best. If they show you your wheel weights, percents, your fine. It's all preference. I've also owned a set of of the Intercomps that you have to press the buttons to get the percents and we didn't like those much, but they were also kart scales. The pads were 10x10, but we used the heck out of them. Jeff, sounds like you did get a great buy if they did run ya just about a grand, but I'd still rather have new then used Junk no matter what it is.

Kromulous
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posted April 06, 2005 08:58 AM  
Buy 4 grain scales, and i'll send you an excel file i created to do the percentages.

4 Grain scales, $150 to $200 bucks, and old comp or laptop and your dialed in. $500 in the whole deal, and does everything you need it to.

dirtbuster
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posted April 06, 2005 09:19 AM  
Save your money on the computer/laptop and figure the % with a calculater. No need of having a 2-300$ computer do to stuff you can do with a 2-3$ calculator

WE have longacres and havent had any trouble. They display all 4 wheel weights, and then you press buttons to get left, rear cross etc. Its not that big of deal but it would be nice to have some that display all weights, plus all % without having to press buttons.

[This message has been edited by dirtbuster (edited April 06, 2005).]

dluna
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posted April 06, 2005 09:23 AM  
Grain scales are GREAT. You can have it on the scales and still roll around under the car to get bar angle, lengths, etc.

I use the laptop I use for work. Just type the wheel weights into the blocks on excel and out comes everything you want to know.

Kromulous
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posted April 06, 2005 09:37 AM  
Yeah i had a guy make up a thing in excel thats got a graphic on it, tells you rear & front %, left & right % and each wheel weight along with %, Cross LR to RF, and cross LF to RR.

All i need it to do now is, have it tell me LR bite, that reminds me i'll take it to him and have him add that.

If anyone needs a copy let me know. i dont like using calculators much, work smart not hard LOL !

Plus i use the computer to keep track of set ups week to week, and costs. Very handly. And like Dluna said the grain scales dont need to be zeroed out.

There is some downside, such is life. Storage is the biggest one.

rrrrick
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posted April 06, 2005 09:56 AM  
I have a set of the Longacre Battery powered scales that are ten years old and still work great. The only problem I every had was the battery pack died out after 8 years and I replaced that.
they only display one weight and one percentage at a time, but we seem to be able to manage.

However, when you buy any scales buy or make pads the same height as the scale pad.
I have always jacked my car up, set it on the pads, put the floor jack away then set the scales up and rolled the car onto the scales. I have seen scale wires cut when someone accidentally ran them over with the floor jack.


Xtreme12x
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posted April 06, 2005 10:59 AM  
We built a set of risers for the scales. They have levelers on each corner, plus in the middle of each rail. There made out of 1x1 rectubing, and then have diamond plate on one side for when the car isn't on the scale, then where you place the scale, the pad sits level with the diamond plate. They sit the car up off the ground about 8 inches, so you can roll under the car when its on the scale to set ride heights. I could draw up dimensions and send them to Jammin if anyone would like to make a set of them. They are really handy

dluna
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posted April 06, 2005 11:57 AM  
Kromulous -

If you send me that excel sheet, I'm sure I could have it output LR bite real quick if you'd like. Would only take a few seconds.

dluna11w@hotmail.com

Kromulous
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posted April 06, 2005 01:12 PM  

 
I already had the guy fix it, thanks for the offer thou.

Take a look.


Istock66
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posted April 06, 2005 02:10 PM           send a private message to Kromulous   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
xtreme, I dont know why you worry about me so much but anyways.

I had cheap longacres like you have where I had to push buttons, I paid 850 on sale new. I sold those for 500 and paid 1000 for these from longacre, with a 2 year warranty, 3 extra cables, aluminum adjustable levelers,and shipping. My scales alone were 2200 at the time the only ones above mine have huge numbers displayed, and have been discontinued. Mine can have a printer pluged in also.

I use to when I had a bar car scale my car on top of 4 6 inch wide 14" rims with a plate welded over the top, so I could roll around under there. I also had 4 8 inch rims with plates and a 1\2 inch rise added for roll offs.


Xtreme12x
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posted April 06, 2005 02:21 PM  
The only button I have to push is the Percent button, everything is on one display, and I do have printer port capabilities but I just write everything down. The Intercomps that Darrell has you have to push lf/lr to get the left side weight, which I don't like those scales at all, and I bet you feel the same way.

dluna
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posted April 06, 2005 04:30 PM  
You two should really kiss and make up. You've been at it for over a month now.

Istock66
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posted April 06, 2005 06:56 PM           send a private message to dluna   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
Your right, but xtreme there has been at it for several months. I believe its over isnt it Brett??

By the way USMTS would probably love to have you at Osky this friday saturday!!!


Xtreme12x
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posted April 06, 2005 08:04 PM  
If i ran that class I'd run, but I'll be there for sure with the 9g mod. You guys will probably pit in the infield, and we'll be off the back stretch. And for the "He's been at it for months", you ought to realize that I never attack you, but more less you bring it on yourself.

racer17j
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posted April 06, 2005 08:33 PM  
I bought my Intercomps from Performance Bodies I think it was like $1050 shipping and all. The ONLY thing I do not like about them is that the cables are permently attached to the display. I haven't had any trouble from them but if I did I guess I would have to send them to Intercomp instead of just buying a new cable or something. So I would also look into that. Try and find a set with dettachable cables.

xhubby
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posted April 07, 2005 04:46 AM  
FlyNlo, Thats something I hadn't thought of. Good point. Thanks for all the input. I want new ones, but looking at the budget, may have to start serching for a used set. Thanks again guys.

xhubby
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posted April 10, 2005 05:06 PM  
Has anybody tried the Deco scales? Speedway Motors has them on their website under the garage sale items for $850.00.

gould
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posted April 10, 2005 05:55 PM  
i use bathroom scales and the plans in the tool box. 70 bux total. They work good enough for me. i have to do all the math myself but thats what the calculator is for. i tested them against digitals and they were very close. close enough to get the baseline, once thats established they work perfect.

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Racer X
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posted April 11, 2005 03:08 PM  
If you buy them from Speedway you get a free scale pad box.

CCGRT9s
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posted April 11, 2005 05:42 PM  
The Intercomp Quik weigh's are very nice. They dropped a little over $200 since last year.

FlyNLoIMCA17
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posted April 11, 2005 10:58 PM  
Never tried the Deco scales but I do have one of their caster-camber gauges and it works good. (not that it has anything to do with scales LOL!)

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