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gould
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posted March 19, 2005 05:49 PM  
I'm having a hard time trying to figure out why front stagger is important. If both wheels rotate independently why would it matter?

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midmod34
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Total posts: 119
posted March 19, 2005 06:37 PM  
it only helps get bite into the car without jacking the lr ride height completly out of wack.

jtno6
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Total posts: 87
posted March 19, 2005 06:53 PM  
good luck finding stagger in a imca tire

jtno6
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posted March 19, 2005 06:56 PM  
i know a guy that runs in the top 3 every night and every were he goes and he dont put stagger any were on the mod at all

HarrisMod#30
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posted March 19, 2005 07:04 PM  
we dont really pay attention to stagger either, we just put the bigger tires on the right side and go racing. I was also wondering does stagger really matter any more with all the rear steer a guy can get now days?

wfoondirt
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posted March 19, 2005 07:36 PM  
Front stagger will change the brake bias between the rf/lf. Otherwise there isn't much on an effect.

dirtywrench13
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posted March 20, 2005 05:19 AM  
we only worry about the back, then we put the biggest one on the rf and scale it.

flyin353
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posted March 20, 2005 07:17 AM  
same as everyone else....front stagger only affects your scale weights, has nothing to do with making the front turn.

donslink1
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posted March 20, 2005 07:41 AM  
front tire stagger will change your angles on the a-arms, which will change your roll center.
because if you have 1" of front stagger in your car and your ride heights are on now you flip flop the tires your ride height are going to be off, In order to fix it is to adjust your heights which will change your angles.
and yes stagger is still important with all the rear steer because your left rear tire is still going around a tighter radius turn.

flyin353
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posted March 20, 2005 08:08 AM  
you may be right about the front control arm angles and such but the front stagger and rear stagger have no relation. The front tires are not attached to an axle like the rear. They spin independent of one another, therefore each could care less how many times the other one spins going the same distance. You are right that they will have some affect if you swap them which is why you need to run the same front stagger as what was on the car when you scaled. If you scaled the car with a bigger LF than RF, it doesn't make a hill of beans how the car turns. Make look goofy as H#$L but the front of the car knows no diference.

Just my opinion and I could be all wet!

donslink1
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posted March 20, 2005 09:32 AM  
right, when I was talking about the radius of the corner I was talking about stagger in the rear, Not the front

sidebiteu259
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posted March 20, 2005 05:18 PM  
The radius of the corner with a rear steer car wont have anything to do with tire stagger. but more along the lines of bar angle and body roll. **** you could run reverse stagger with the right amount of reat steer and body roll and get it do to the same thing.

donslink1
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posted March 20, 2005 05:53 PM  
but your left rear tire still turns a tighter radius. no matter what your rear steer is.
thats like if you have a locked rearend on the steet and you turn a corner and you hear one tire squeel a little, thats why, One tire is dragging, Stagger helps that

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