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Author Topic:   Split Valve Shocks
badfastjr
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posted March 09, 2005 02:46 PM  
what are your guys opinions on split valve shock. I have tie downs on the rf and rr and easy outs on the lf and lr. thinking of possibly running a straight valve lr, what do you guys think this will do?

FlyNLoIMCA17
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posted March 09, 2005 05:15 PM  
That will just slow down the car getting on the bars. There is nothing wrong with split valve shocks, But I always try to get my car handling good with straight valve shocks and then fine tune it with the split valves. Thats all shocks are for is fine tuning they will NOT fix a big problem. Also keep in mind that a shock doesn't control how much weight moves or anything like that. Shocks are TIMING devices, thats it! A stiffer shock makes weight transfer slower, but the same amount of weight will be transfered.

Hope that helps!

Dale

Kromulous
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posted March 10, 2005 05:55 AM  
Shocks are the heart of a race car, just like the cam shaft is the heart of an engine.

Buy the best you can afford, and buy rebuildables, and get used to tuning them, rebuilding them, changing them etc.

Xtreme12x
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posted March 10, 2005 08:24 AM  
This day in age, shocks aren't as big as they used to be. Kromolous sounds like the Jet. All he every told anyone was change shocks. Shocks are merely a timing device, they really don't make changes to the handling, just control when something happens.

highside2020
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posted March 10, 2005 08:12 PM           send a private message to Xtreme12x   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
I myself would listen to Flyinglow before i would listen to anyone else he hit the nail right on the head and I would bet money he isnt a wheel man but more of the old school wrenches. And i would car to say he has some sprint car back ground in him, **** might even like them more. I would pick his brain.

badfastjr
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posted March 10, 2005 08:19 PM  
wouldnt any easy out lr make the car get one the bars sooner though, I run on a 3/8ths semi banked track, Its slightly d-shaped.
what would you guys recommend to start with on shocks for all four corners, trying to get the car to stay turned in the middle and thought gettin it on the bars sooner would help

sdracer12
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posted March 11, 2005 06:05 AM  
Badfastjr, what kind of suspension setup do you have? A three link vs. a 4 link could take different shocks.

I run split valves when it gets slick, to keep car on the bars, and to help it turn. When it is tacky or rough I usually stay with the straight rate stuff in heavier rates.

badfastjr
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posted March 11, 2005 04:04 PM  
i have a two link with a biscuit typ pull bar.

2nd2none
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posted March 11, 2005 06:31 PM  
i believe (not to be mean) that you should worry more about driving the car with a neutral setup on it than going with off the wall extreme setups. Especially since this is going to be your 2nd? year. Start with a good baseline setup. 75s in the front 73s on the back, when you feel like you have exhausted every setup change you can make to get the car as fast as possible THEN start worrying about the shocks.

badfastjr
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posted March 11, 2005 10:40 PM  
im not just asking this for me, my dads car is basically the same as mine and all the info i can find out is good, and its something like his 22nd year, plus, it was mostly just a general question to find out some info. I know its my 2nd year and thats exactly why i ask questions like this, even if its something that ill never try id like to at least know what it will do,so later on i can get good ideas on what to do to make my car the best it can possibly be. This is a great forum with poeple who have a lot of knowledge, thanks to everyone for there help.

Kromulous
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posted March 14, 2005 07:01 AM  
Badfastjr, your on the right track. An easy rebound, high compression on the LR will help keep it on the bars.

Also, easy out shocks on the front help transfer weight to the back faster as well. They can be helpfull. Carefull with these thou, they can produce push.

You've been racing 2 years, you should have a basic set up by now that drives pretty easy. If you do, buy some rebuildable shocks and play with them, stick to the rear shocks first, once you find something you like there, move to the front.

If things get out of whack, go back to your basic set up and start over. Keep good notes and record all your shock changes and what it does, you'll get it figured out.

I also wanna say, a fast race car is often not easy to drive. I see and hear alot of guys say get a basic set up and drive it, well thats only going to get you so far. If you wanna go as fast as you possably can, often your car will gravitate to a set up thats is hard (mentally / concentration wise) to drive, and usually are very sensitive to poor driving. Every driver cant handle cars like this, some can.

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