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marksracing
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 79
posted February 21, 2005 07:46 PM  
I AM NEW TO DRIVING A MODIFIED .WE MOVED UP FROM MINISTOCKS TO A MODIFIED THIS YEAR. IN THE MINISTOCK I NEVER USED THE BRAKES MUCH. I SEE ALL THE GOOD MODIFIED GUYS USEING THERE BRAKES ALOT. AND MY QUESTION IS WHEN AND WHERE ON THE TRACK SHOULD I USED MY BRAKES? PLEASE HELP ON A TACKY TRACK AND A DRYSLICK TRACK

Fastride 38
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 125
posted February 21, 2005 07:55 PM  
On a good tackey track I don't use much brake at all if the chassis is handling correctly. On dry slick it's best (in my opinon) not to brake much in the corner but prior to getting in (if needed). Once again, it's just how your car is handling and where you may need to use alittle brake to set it up going in or get it to turn down in the center.

FlyNLoIMCA17
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 753
posted February 21, 2005 11:22 PM  
I feel the same way. On dry slick try to do most of your braking BEFORE you enter the turn. When you hit the brakes, that uses up available grip from the tires. So if your braking in the turn then your not using all the available traction for turning. Therefore you go slower!

Also on really dry tracks "drag" the brake off the turn while applying throttle if your having trouble making it hook, it kinda works like traction control.

On tacky I drive it off in the turns and "stab" the brakes and make it turn, but of course DON'T do that on dryslick, because it can cause dizziness! LOL!

That should get you started but the rest you'll have to figure out mainly by yourself because all drivers are different. If we weren't it would be a race of cars not drivers.

dirtywrench13
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 324
posted February 22, 2005 10:44 AM  
USE THEM WHEN YOU GET JUST TO THE POINT WHEN YOU WANT TO TURN,OR GET SCARED,BUT MOST OF ALL, BE SMOOTH,NOT JERKY. YOU WANT TO SET THE CAR,NOT UPSET IT.

Rook78
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 106
posted February 22, 2005 10:45 AM  
I was a rookie last year, and I had the same concerns. Take it easy at first, use caution until you get the feel down and are confident you do not have a loose or push problem. After your comfort level is raised, then you can give er heck. On a tacky track I was told drive it in until you think you should let off, then go another 50' tap the brakes to get it sideways and stand on it.

Dry slick I agree with the other guys. I found that trying to brake on entering I nearly always pushed up the track. Brake prior to corner entry and get the car to take a set with the throttle.

Make sure you run more rear brake % on tacky and less rear % on dry slick.

[This message has been edited by Rook78 (edited February 22, 2005).]

TEAMPCR
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 238
posted February 22, 2005 02:17 PM  
Brakes? On a Race Car? What will they think of next??

mod70
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posted February 22, 2005 03:39 PM           send a private message to TEAMPCR   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
Brakes are the bumper in front of you!

FlyNLoIMCA17
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posted February 22, 2005 05:47 PM  
Yeah about the only brakes I get are the "breaks" that cost me money. Like the Engine breaks or the transmission breaks. I never have cheap stuff like wheel bearings or lug nuts break it's always the expensive stuff LOL!

Desert Mod
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 60
posted February 22, 2005 07:12 PM  
On a dry slick, I often do what they call "trail braking," which is working the brake and throttle at the same time to keep the tires from spinning. Works pretty good. I also agree with the others who say to brake BEFORE you get to the corner. On a good, banked, tacky track, I'll stab the brakes hard to turn the car, then not touch them until the next corner. Once the car begins to turn, get back on the throttle and off the brakes. Hope that helps.

mod4
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 223
posted February 22, 2005 07:45 PM  
Just like they said, everyone does it different - it's a style thing.
But I will tell you something thats been true for me on both pavement and dirt, I've had people swear they "barely used any brake" .. and I was using PLENTY and was passing them going in ...
use all you need, when you can drive differently from the car you are chasing you can pass him ....

leapinlizard
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 402
posted February 23, 2005 08:15 AM  
I found my self liking the throttle all the way in, then stabbing the brake and turning left till the car started to yaw. Then I'll wait on it till the the rear stop coming around and the car rolled over on the right hand side and took it set, then throttle steer it till the apex and go wide open from there unless the rear wouldn't dig. Then I would trial brake.

I'm a lot smoother with faster lap times on the slick if that tells you anything.

Desert Mod
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 60
posted February 25, 2005 04:15 PM  
Oh yeah. Left foot brake if you don't already. It allows for quicker reaction time for the brake and the throttle.

joe69
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 9
posted February 26, 2005 10:25 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by Desert Mod:
Oh yeah. Left foot brake if you don't already. It allows for quicker reaction time for the brake and the throttle.

on a tacky track drive like you stole it and a dry track almost like on pavement

phil98
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 34
posted February 27, 2005 05:08 AM  
no,no,no... The saying is ALWAYS TRUE, Don't lift (or brake) until you see Elvis. By then it's probably to late. Or brakes are for loading the car without running over the car owner. Which ever they both work, I guess.

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