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m33mcg
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posted January 13, 2005 07:28 PM  
As I mentioned in the topic "IMCA rules"
I have been playing with the idea of starting a modified sanctioning body. I would like input if this would be of interest to any. This will take alot of hours to do and would hate to waste my time if there is no interest.

Just reply with a yes or no.

Thanks, Mike

orange2mod
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posted January 14, 2005 08:49 AM  
YES

pbrcowboy2
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posted January 14, 2005 08:51 AM  
yes

dirtbuster
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posted January 14, 2005 09:12 AM  
yes

uforacing51
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posted January 14, 2005 09:15 AM  
Yes, hope your up for a battle though.

mod70
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posted January 14, 2005 10:07 AM           send a private message to uforacing51   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
I'm going to break the rules and say "maybe". It depends what you're trying to acomplish, making the cars perfectly even, or opening things up and letting them run?

zeroracing
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posted January 14, 2005 10:43 AM  
YES!!!! as far as rules go, some to think about are aftermarket lowers, wieght rules, motor rules...
i would allow aftermarket lowers, as long as they are the same deminsons as stock front stub. then you could make them yourself at home or run stock ones and no performance gain.
other rules to consider are qc in the FUTURE to be VOTED on by the racers.
i had an idea for controlling tc, and hard core teching.
1) have the winning car in front of everbody draw a number out of the hat, whatever that number is 1-24 that car in that finishing spot in the feature gets teched(hard tech in front of everybody in the tech area, chase wires, inspect motors, wiegh car, measure other items, and front 4 get regular tech. if somebody wins alot then track can claim thier ingintion box, and dist. BUT must replace it wtih equivilent, if you loose a msd box, they must pay for a new one same model. then they can inspect the box or send it to msd for inspection.
other rules i would personally like to see. LEGALIZE TIRE GROOVING AND TREATMENT!!! it is a fact it makes them last longer. at least groove over stock grooves.
1 other thing i would like to see is make each car pass a saftey tech before they can race.
the saftey tech will be done at the track, or other appointed area's, this tech includes putting the car up on jackstands, looking over welds, checking tubing bends, measure certian tubes, look for just unsafe items(no padding, sharp objects, battery about to fall out, fire system..)
and finally our track is making us do it this year and would be a good idea, spring teathers on the back springs(had to run them last year1/8th thick steel cable), and the back bumper has to be teathered to car so not to drag or fall off in a crash or just bumping(everybody has seen or heard of somebody getting beat up by a bumper).
goodluck if you do do this, i would be glad to help in about anyway.


chapa73
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posted January 14, 2005 11:31 AM  
I like everything Zero has said.We can groove tires in the stock lines.im kinda a poor boy racer and there are a few guys that race around and dont groove thier tires,I take up thier old tires and throw the grooving on them.

I see that a QC would be cheaper for the racer in the long run,I would just rather them run ratios that are close to a 9 inch,Some will say no,but we are all racers and changing gears for track conditions can make you faster.

Some motor rules,Im not much into the claim rule,I can build a rocket for a motor,but it would take me about 6-9 months of saving,and then to have it claimed for 500 would end my season,not that I would sale.If a claim make it like 1500,give the guy some money to work with.500 wont even pay for machine work.

Goodluck.

m33mcg
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posted January 14, 2005 04:27 PM  
This is the type of input I am looking for and need. Already it is starting to take shape. Keep it coming.
Thanks, Mike

FlyNLoIMCA17
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posted January 14, 2005 07:23 PM  
YES

badfastjr
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posted January 14, 2005 09:05 PM  
a pounds per cbic inch rule would be great to. It would keep racing more competitive and possibly keep costs down

FlyNLoIMCA17
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posted January 14, 2005 09:30 PM  
As you know I don't like the way IMCA is changing their rules, but the main things that I would like to see changed are things that make the racing better and cheaper. Which is pretty much everyone's goal anyways. Like this new coil over rule, why not have a CHOICE you can run what IMCA is or you can run actual coil over shocks or at least just run the small springs. I just would like that better. I like Zero's tire idea. Treatments make the tires last longer.
If you get this thing rolling, maybe it would be a good idea to discuss all the rules on here, so we can get everyone's view point on each rule???

orange2mod
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posted January 15, 2005 07:57 AM  
We have a track in Oregon(Rivercity speedway) that opened up it's tire rule to "any 8 inch racing tire, no slicks." This made it so guys from all over could come and race without having to buy new sets of tires for one night. I'd like to load my mod up and go to any track and not have to worry about any special rules. The more rules you have the more it costs.

rpm20
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posted January 15, 2005 03:58 PM  
do it, imca needs the competition and needs to see we have our own voice and will walk away if things dont change.

T/10
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posted January 16, 2005 10:28 AM  
YES! Keep the tire, allow groving, open everything else and let us fly.

mod70
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posted January 16, 2005 12:51 PM           send a private message to T/10   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
It's starting to sound like there is an interest for an "outlaw" IMCA style mod body. The NE mods are starting to have TV coverage, and I think it's due to the fact that the performance of those cars is so outstanding. If you can open up the suspentions and motors while still keeping them CI blocks and heads I think you might just have a show really worth watching. I love the look of our mods (no offense to those NE guys) and would not want that to change. I can't see anyone overthrowing the 900lb gorilla of IMCA, so there would be an option for the guys not willing to drop the cake that you would be looking at in this new class. It may not seem like it would be worth the payout at first, but given time I could see interest picking up and payouts going up.

mod70
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posted January 16, 2005 12:56 PM           send a private message to T/10   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
I just thought I'd throw this up to see if it gets batted arround. What does everybody think amout a full fab frame, no stock clips?

T/10
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posted January 16, 2005 04:13 PM  
YES! Frames are getting harder to find every year.

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