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FlyNLoIMCA17
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posted January 03, 2005 03:43 PM  
I have a metric openwheel with pinto spindles and tie rod adaptors. All the rest of the steering is factory metric. I have a common problem. First off, the inner tie rods and the outer steel sleeve scrub the frame. I notched the frame and pretty much fixed that. But the last race of the season I had trouble with the outer sleeve hitting the bottom of the front frame horn mainly because of too weak of front springs.

So to make a very long story short, here's what I want to know.

I took the factory drag link and flipped it around. Making the part the bends in toward the front crossmember, bend outward. This made a BIG difference. All my clearence problems are gone, including (for some reason) my tires scrubbing the frame. I haven't checked the bump steer yet, but I bounced the front end and it seemed to have more toe out during compression.

Do you guys see any other reason why this might not work???

All help is greatly appreciated as always.
Thanks,
Dale

superdave
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posted January 03, 2005 04:45 PM  
I saw this once in another guys shop. He didn't race it it just being assembled. Doesn't it toe in real bad when you turn left or right and does it turn all the way?

Good luck,
Superdave

FlyNLoIMCA17
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posted January 03, 2005 08:04 PM  
Not sure haven't checked into it that far...

That could be why it doesn't scrub the frame anymore, because its not turning all the way.

mod70
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posted January 03, 2005 09:20 PM           send a private message to FlyNLoIMCA17   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
I would also wonder if this would produce Ackerman steering, adding toe when the wheels are turned even at ride height?

Larry Lundin
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posted January 05, 2005 05:01 PM  
The Pinto spindles work well on the early chevelle and impala clips but the steering arms are way too short when bolted up to a metric clipped car. The metric spindles work much better with a metric clip. I'm not sure you'll be able too overcome your steering problems while staying within IMCA rules using Pinto spindles on a metric car, good luck

Dustejr73
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posted January 05, 2005 07:31 PM  
i have a metric clip with nova lowers and pinto spindles and i have no bump steer problem. i am also running the stock metric draglink with the 68-72 idler and pitman arm. no bind or bump. i was told to use the 84 camaro draglink, but it is an inch too wide.

bachshute
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posted January 05, 2005 08:03 PM  
Dustejr73

I have a metric clip with metric lowers and the stock metric draglink .
Do you think the chevelle idler arm and pitman arm would work with this ?
also have the metric spindles.
Thanks

[This message has been edited by bachshute (edited January 05, 2005).]

Dustejr73
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posted January 05, 2005 10:12 PM  
i stumbled onto this setup by accident because i have always ran Dirtworks cars so i had some 68-72 stuff. i know this would move your draglink about 1.5 inches further forward so you would have clearance. i guess the best way is to get a chevelle idler and pitman and try it in the shop. i am sure you could borrow some with EVERYONE out there running the cookie cutter chevelle chassis. ha ha ha

FlyNLoIMCA17
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posted January 06, 2005 01:52 AM  
I've been running my car with the metric lowers and pinto spindles for 2 years now and my bump steer is perfect, so this setup will work. But the reversed drag link(after closer investigation) is not going to work. Instead I will install the 68-72 idler and pitman arm. Thanks for the help guys.

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