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gould
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posted January 02, 2005 07:01 PM  
on the right rear of my car i can mount the caliper on the front or rear side of the rotor. can someone tell me what the differences are when on the binders.

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wfoondirt
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posted January 02, 2005 08:21 PM  
None at all.

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posted January 02, 2005 08:26 PM           send a private message to wfoondirt   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
Are you sure? It seems to me that the effect of mounting a floater on the back side of the roter will force the RR down when you get on the brakes, which is what helps to tighten the car up. If you mount it in front would it still force it down or prevent it from doing so?

wfoondirt
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posted January 02, 2005 09:39 PM  
Its a radial force so there is no difference.

zeroracing
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posted January 02, 2005 09:42 PM  
wfoondirt is 100% correct, no change will be seen. so mount it whereever you have the most clearence and can get it to bleed good.

awkwardjeff
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posted January 03, 2005 01:44 PM  
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Originally posted by wfoondirt:
Its a radial force so there is no difference.

Let me see if I understand this right......because the rotor is going in a circle the brakes have a radial force.....so how I stop the rear end from rotating has no effect.......... is that awhat I understand???? if that were true.....which it's not...... let's say you got a car on bird cages and a pull bar....you weld the brake brackets to the housing now the pull bar is the braking force, stopping the radial force.....if my pull bar is pointed down when I step on the brakes it pushes the chassis into the ground, not allowing the chassis to roll in the turn this creates a big PUSH....... if I have the angle of the pull bar point up at the front it will lift the chassis off the ground.....also known as wheel hop...........

as for the orignal question......most people that use a brake floater on the right rear angle it upward at the front, if the car has too much body roll you will have too much rear steer making the car loose off the turn, you can control this loose off condition by applying some brake mid-turn to keep the chassis from rolling over too far.\

Also, you can use more angle in the pull bar, effecting weight transfer without effecting the weight tranfer under braking. remember the old stock 4 link, you could get good forward bite by changing angles of the upper arms, but then under braking the chassis would wheel hop???

wfoondirt
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posted January 03, 2005 08:12 PM  
I think he was refering to the location of the caliper on the floater (in front of the housind or behind) not the bar that attaches the floater to the chassis. If not then I was mistaken.

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gould
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posted January 03, 2005 11:53 PM  
yes, location of the caliper on the floater

Alltel
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posted January 04, 2005 08:28 AM  
Make sure when you mount the calipers, the brake bleader is on top side of the caliper. If it's not the highest point then air can get trapped in the caliper and you will have a hard time getting the air out.

Wauge28
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posted January 04, 2005 10:15 AM  
The car won't know the difference as to where the caliper is mounted. The bar angle is what will change the car handling. If the bar is up, it will load that wheel when on the brakes. If it is flat it will be more neutral. Adjust the angle to loosen or tighten the car when getting in the turn.

So to answer, no, the caliper mounting position does not matter. Most people put in on the back so you get more weight towards the rear of the car.

awkwardjeff
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posted January 05, 2005 04:24 PM  
I'm sorry....... You are correct in what information he was looking for..... I will re-read threads before resonding...... You were correct in the information you gave..

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