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IMCAMod#57
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 6
posted October 19, 2004 10:14 PM  
Hey guys.I need your opinions on Falcon Transmissions. I want to hear past experiences, how you liked them, How hard or easy to maintain, I want to anything and everything you have to say about them, good or bad. Thanks

zeroracing
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posted October 19, 2004 11:01 PM  
i have one, and will get another one. they are well worht the money. i prefer it over any other. i have heard all kinds of stories, one guy told me that you can not put one in reverse, another told me that they blow the copler apart. i know most people that talk bad about them, have never used one or even know about them.
i have had great luck with mine, change fluid very often, make sure to keep the bolts tight to the bellhousing.
oh one problem-the drain plug is junk, replace it first, the allen part will strip out.

IMCAMod#57
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 6
posted October 19, 2004 11:31 PM  
OK Thank You for the response. Any more opinions??

Thanks

ford5
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Total posts: 711
posted October 20, 2004 05:13 AM  
It seems like the tailhousing bearing is a bit suspect? I have seen alot of them gone bad, they are a pain to replace too when they are all chewed up. Some stock type yokes don't seem to be compatable with the bearing, as it will wear a deep groove in the yoke surface, at least it has on the ones that i have seen. If you can afford it, stick to Brinn.........JMO

NJantz
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 755
posted October 20, 2004 06:23 AM  
Falcon tells you that you need to run a hardened yoke! I've never had any problems with the tailshaft bearing. I even stabbed it with the driveshaft one night when the pullbar broke. Just took out the broken pieces and got a new bearing. Easy fix.

Mine has always been a little hard for me to shift into hi gear. Some guys don't have a problem tho.

One thing I wish they would redesign is where the shift linkage connects. It is very tight in that area and the rod ends have to be just so to clear the trans. housing.

Overall I'm happy with mine. It's a good piece for a good price.

If you ever have a problem with a Falcon, Charlie Castle is more than willing to help you out. He'll go out of his way.

As far as maintenance goes, I just change the fluid after every race and thats all I do.

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dirtywrench13
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 324
posted October 20, 2004 12:41 PM  
I'VE HEARD A LOT OF HORROR STORIES, BUT I HAVE A BERT, ITS TAKEN A LOT OF ABUSE, BUT KEEPS WORKIN FINE.

21racer
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 56
posted October 20, 2004 05:27 PM  
i bought a used falcon trans ran about 15 night or so no problens i love it change fluid every 2 weeks

IMCAMod#57
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 6
posted October 20, 2004 05:30 PM  
OK, if you guys had a choice, what would you pick, Brinn, PowerGlide, Falcon, Muncie, or Bert. Thanks

x13jc
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posted October 20, 2004 06:43 PM  
I put a full season on my falcon this year and i did not baby it....some times it was about 3 races befor fluid change. I stuffed the driveshaft into the back of it and galled it up pretty bad...put new seal in and was fine. I also lost a drive shaft under hard load and it broke both inner ears...had them welded up and its still going strong. It was a bit stiff at first to shift but after about 4 or 5 races it was no prob....talking to some others and they backed off the bolt to make it shift easy and they said it was still had at mid season...i never backed mine off and have no problems... I think they are a pretty good trans if they can hold up to my abuse!!!

IMCAMod#57
Dirt Roller

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posted October 20, 2004 09:26 PM  
Now, did you guys notice a performance change once you changed to a Falcon. Unless you started with a Falcon, could you tell a difference? Thanks, just thought I would do the research.

NJantz
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Total posts: 755
posted October 21, 2004 06:04 AM  
I used to run a powerglide, and didn't notice a performance change on the dryslick tracks we race on.

The next trans. will probably be a Brinn. I have shifted one of those and it was easier than my Falcon.

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dluna
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Total posts: 334
posted October 21, 2004 07:43 AM  
same gear, same everything, we turned around 300-500 more rpms at the track we raced on when it is tacky with the falcon after switching from a stock gm 3spd and ram triple disc.

I think you can drive the car in harder with this setup. When you get off the gas it seems to help slow down the car a lot, therefore allowing you to go in deeper...I've never driven an automatic, but my dad says that they feel about the same.

I broke a j-bar and the driveshaft moved around a lot so I have a pretty good leak out the back now. I am assuming once I change the seal everything will be good to go for next year.

I agree with the post above about the linkage being really close to the case. If you go with homeade linkage, you have to get it just right. No problems shifting here though. Put it in the gear you want before starting up the motor and it works great.

terrellracing
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posted October 21, 2004 11:15 AM  
have had a falcon tranny for 3 years now. love it. would change to another brand. change fluid every 4 to 5 nights. i was using a 3 speed saginaw with 1st gear removed, when changed to falcon car takes off faster and gets to speed faster. only had trouble shifting when first got tranny, figured out you have to run rpms up then let them drop a little to put in gear, shift great. i would recommend a falcon. if you have a regular tranny or running a auto. if you get a bert tranny you will have to get a longer drive shaft.(tail section on bert is shorter than falcon or brinn).

topnotch
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posted October 21, 2004 05:33 PM  
had ours 2 seasons. no failures. upper left bolt boss broken twice. (still broken now)We had it welded right and had the bellhousing machined and still rebroke. The linkage is very tight to the tail housing. need more clearance. wore out two stock yokes so far. rear bearing is suspect. changed it once with a new rear seal. called the manufacturer for parts. they are very difficult to deal with. that is not good for a weekly racer. Good piece? yes.
is there better out there? most likely. Need some parts for it? SOL!

LATE MODEL 9W
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 66
posted October 22, 2004 06:46 PM  
Had mine for 5 years, ran in my mod, then a late modeland back into a mod this last year. I change the fluid every 2 races and still on the original clutches. I would buy another one. My son has been thru 2 brinns in the same time.

dirtmod0
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 143
posted October 23, 2004 08:02 AM  
I would never go back to P-glides for sure..
Falcon trans is the best, change fluid every second race(type F fluid) yes the room for linkage is kinda tight but they are GREAT!!!!

IMCAMod#57
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 6
posted October 23, 2004 08:26 AM  
Well, Thanks for your help guys. I believe I will be going with a Falcon or a Bert. Thanks

sanderson10
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 35
posted October 25, 2004 01:12 PM  
We home built our linkage and that got away from the clearence issue, drain plug allen part is junk so we pounded a torx bit in there works fine now. We have also rammed the drive shaft into the housing and the tranny worked great afterwards. Haven't worn out a yoke either so I like my falcon and would get another one. Jason

sdracer82b
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 32
posted October 26, 2004 09:41 PM  
well i have about 115 shows on my layne and it has never been out of the car same fluid everything the way it came i have blown 2 motors and a set of gears and still good to go


24KC
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 35
posted October 28, 2004 04:50 PM  
I have 2 years on my Falcon no problems One thing to consider,if you run a Powerglide now the driveshaft will work with a Falcon not a Bert. Also if you have alot of movement (4 link) the output shaft of the Falcon is splined a long way to let the yoke in.

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