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dirtslinger66
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posted September 26, 2004 07:46 PM  
Does anyone know what the bolt on mounts cost from Harris to make a 200 2 link into a 4 link car?

Wildside17
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posted September 26, 2004 08:38 PM  
Price sheet shows 125 for the left trailing arm bracket. And 125 for the Right side trailing arm bracket. Thats for 4 link both sides. You'd have to call them for sure. If you don't have it the # 1 800 833 5174

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doghouse racing4
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posted September 27, 2004 08:57 AM  
I would talk to a Harris dealer about this or somebody who has tried it. I don't know maybe you already have. The Harris dealer around my area has the mounts on his car but is not running them. Not on dry slick or tacky tracks. He said that the guys that are running the 4 bar are not doing very well. Some of them have taken them off and back to 3 link. But then again I know one person that likes it so I guess it's a matter of what driver prefers. Just would do some checking with people that have tried it before I would try it. Also they have mounts to run a Z link if interested. Just my 2 cents worth!

HarrisMod#30
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posted September 27, 2004 07:28 PM  
You have a private message, oh yeah, also dont forget about buying the birdcages and bars and heims, i do belive the whole kit is around $875 , but that comes with a swing arm z link for the right rear, but you might as well throw the swing arm part in the garbage and run a straigt zlink on the rr or a 2 link rr. The kit includes your mounts, bird cages and control arms and heims.

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Wildside17
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posted September 27, 2004 07:44 PM  
Reese from Harris won 2 track championships on a 4 link rear. Not sure if 4lr Z rr or 4lr and 2rr
Jay from Harris won 1 track championship on the same. Jay had somewhere around 20 wins.

b00
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posted September 28, 2004 02:40 AM  
they are running a 4bar with a clamped 2 link
to put rear steer in car

37mod
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posted October 06, 2004 07:48 PM  
I am running four bar two bar against jay and reese and in 12 nites have not been out of the top four and won 3 with two being in a row. Everyone with a harris needs to at least try it. It is bad fast if you can set it up


FlyNLoIMCA17
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posted October 06, 2004 09:31 PM  
Are you guys running the 4 bar LR 3 link RR??? If so is the RR a swingarm or just a straight link???? I'm running the 4 bar LR 3 bar RR on my car and I was thinking of putting the RR on a 3 link (or 2 link) swingarm (spring on the bar)And if you're on the swingarm RR is it a locked swingarm or floated z-link??

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37mod
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posted October 07, 2004 09:58 AM  
My car is a four bar two link with spring behind rear end on a clamp bracket, have tried it on top and in front and like it best behind. I know a guy who runs one on a swing arm and he likes it, it is mostly what feels good to you.

MIDWEST MOTORSPORTS
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posted October 07, 2004 12:01 PM  
THE HOTT SETUP IS 4 BAR LEFT AND 2 LINK RR. BOTH SPRINGS BEHIND THE AXLE WITH THE LEFT REAR ON THE BIRDCAGE. WE ACTUALLY RUN THE SAME SUSPENSION AND WE SPRUNG THE RIGHT REAR ON TOP SOMETIMES, MADE THE CAR AWESOME IN THE CORNERS BUT HURT FORWARD BITE. JAY WON 26 FEATURES AND 1 TRACK CHAMPIONSHIP AND WAS POWERED BY MIDWEST MOTORSPORTS. HE ALSO WON THE BLACKBIRD NATIONALS AND THE TINY LUND.

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Kromulous
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posted October 07, 2004 12:19 PM  
Whats the length of the arm?

MIDWEST MOTORSPORTS
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posted October 07, 2004 12:28 PM  
20 3/4 RR LOWER LINK USE A 17 SWEDGE
THANKS REX

Kromulous
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posted October 07, 2004 01:10 PM  
Thank you, sounds like a neat set-up.

RR birdcage / bracket floated or clamped to the housing?

MIDWEST MOTORSPORTS
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posted October 07, 2004 01:30 PM  
CLAMP THE BRAKES, IF YOU FLOAT THEM IT WILL CAUSE CHASSIS BIND.

doghouse racing4
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posted October 19, 2004 06:36 PM  
I have a Harris and this is something I may have to try. I would like spring rates and bar angles if anybody who runs this will let me know. My questions is this...How does this 4 bar/ 2link setup handle a rough track and how does it handle a tacky track? Also what panhard bar works best with this..shorty/ j-bar/ or long bar behind rearend? Any and all info would be great.. right now I run a 3 link with the lr at 15 in and rr at 20 1/2". I ran a tacky rough track this weekend and I had to change from a shorty bar to a long panhard bar behind rearend. The rough track... it reacted way to fast and felt I was bull riding instead of trying to get around the track.

FlyNLoIMCA17
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posted October 19, 2004 07:08 PM  
I don't know about everyone else, but I'll tell you my experience with this set-up. When the track is rough, it works ok. Much better than a 4 bar both sides. If it gets really rough I lock my LR birdcage and remove the top bar, so its a 3link both sides. As far as tacky tracks go........the only time I seen that was in hot laps. Car done ok, it did seem to be a little tight. My recommendation is to try it, you might like it. My springs are LF 750 RF 800 LR 200 RR 175. I weigh it out like a 4 bar. I don't put too much cross in it, and just about 70-90 lbs. of bite. Works pretty good for me like that, but I will be experimenting with the wheel weights and percentages next year.

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FlyNLoIMCA17
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posted October 19, 2004 07:28 PM  
Oh yeah I forgot one of your questions. I run a shorty panhard bar. I have never tried a J-bar or long bar with this type of setup. I might try that too, I still have my J-bar from my old car.

MONEY21
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posted October 19, 2004 07:31 PM  
what kind of track are ya'll running.would the 4bar left 2bar right work on 1/4 tight turn slick track might have to try this.

FlyNLoIMCA17
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posted October 19, 2004 10:21 PM  
I run it on a 1/4 mile tight turned dry slick track.

37mod
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posted October 20, 2004 06:39 AM  
The track I race at with those guys is a short 3/8 with tight corners and it works great. No 4bar is going to work really well on a rough track, you just need to keep it down if it is rough. The springs I run are 650lf 750rf 200lr 200rr and I run 47.2 cross and almost no bite. I also run a long bar in the back, I tried the j-bar and I think on the slick it would be good.


doghouse racing4
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posted October 20, 2004 02:35 PM  
37mod and flynlo.....The rear springs lr200 and rr200 or 175, are both your springs mounted behind housing like midwest motorsports says? And when you say scale it like a 4 bar, what does that mean exactly? low cross and very little lr bite? or is there more to it? Also i think the brackets for the four bar harris setup ar 5/8" heims. Does anybody know why it is set up with 5/8" heims instead of 3/4" like the cars are as a 3 link?

FlyNLoIMCA17
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posted October 20, 2004 07:37 PM  
I run the LR spring behind the axle and the RR in front. Never tried putting the RR behind on this setup.......might help I don't know. When I say I scale it like a 4-bar I mean low cross % and little LR bite. Thats it. Thats what I do. My car is not a Harris but it is also using 5/8 heims. They work fine for me.

Kromulous
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posted October 21, 2004 07:20 AM  
5/8" in holes, or heims will give you a finer adjustment is all. 1 hole move with 3/4" heims maybe be a 5* change, 1 hole with 5/8" maybe 2 or 3* tops. Weaker, probaly but not to much would imagine.

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