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dirtywrench13
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 324
posted July 18, 2004 07:29 AM  
WE ARE STRUGGLIN TO GET THE CAR THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE CORNERWITHOUT IT PUSHING.

SPRINGS
LF 650
RF 750
LR 200
RR 175
CROSS 48.1
LEFT 55.1
REAR 58.1

STAGGER IN FRONT 1-11/2
REAR 1 1/2-2
LONG PULL BAR AT 25 DEGREES
NO DAMPNER SHOCK
SHOCKS LF 45-45
RF 60-30
LR 30-50
RR 50-30
ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED!

dirtywrench13
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 324
posted July 18, 2004 07:46 AM  
BY THE WAY IT'S A DW-8 WITH 4-Z
LR UPPER AT 18*
LR LOWER AT 0*
RR UPPER AT 14*
RR LOWER AT 12*
3" WHEELS ON THE RIGHT
4" WHEELS ON THE LEFT
LR SPRING ON A SLIDER IN FRONT
RR ON TOP

leftturn73
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 199
posted July 18, 2004 01:21 PM  
My 2 cents put a 3" offset on LF
Lower the top right bar down to 5 degrees
Put a 94 shock on the rr

Try these then if needed lower the pullbar to say 20 degrees.

badfastjr
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 193
posted July 18, 2004 03:34 PM  
i had about the same problem, with close to the same springs, and i took the 650 out of the lf and put in a 850. It was awesome. the car turned perfect and i could get back in the gas way sooner. You should try it, it worked great on my car

WPP
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 451
posted July 18, 2004 03:40 PM  
Is it pushing on the throttle or off the throttle

2nd2none
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 755
posted July 18, 2004 11:54 PM  
my bad, forgot you was on a Z on RR.

[This message has been edited by 2nd2none (edited July 18, 2004).]

dirtywrench13
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 324
posted July 19, 2004 05:30 AM  
WELL I CHANGED THE RIGHT UPPER TO ABOUT 8*,AND CHANGED THE REAR WHEEL OFFSETS TO A3" ON THE LR AND A 4"ON THE RR,IT WAS WAY BETTER. BUT WE ARE STILL FIGHTING ANOTHER PROBLEM,DRIVER DOESNT LIKE THE CAR LYING ON ITS SIDE. THE RIGHT SIDE DOESNT LIFT UP COMMING OFF THE CORNER.THE LEFT SIDE STAYS HIKED UP THE WHOLE WAY.ANY SUGGESTIONS?WE ONLY HAVE 40 LBS REAR BITE,AND AROUND 200 IN FRONT.

samiller
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 14
posted July 19, 2004 06:55 PM  
move right bottom arm up a hole. this will let right roll more towards front. control how much with top bar. more angle to rear will let rear end move more. this is on z link.

dirtywrench13
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 324
posted July 19, 2004 08:49 PM  
front link is as far up as it will go(dirtworks 4 hole 2-link bnrackets).just hopeing to get it to settle down off the corner.

truthtalker2
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 46
posted July 20, 2004 03:19 AM  
raise the panhard/J-bar up one hole at the pinon

Dman
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 270
posted July 20, 2004 08:38 AM  
This 4/zlink tight deal seems to be a common complaint on all the message boards. softening the right front or stiffening the left front tends to cure this.With the 4 bar the car gets up on the bars on the left (basically rigid)on the throttle which makes the cross weight go sky high and gives you the push.The only way to reduce this and still get the left rear to drive is to soften the right front or stiffen the left front so the rt.front absorbs the initial spike in cross weight when you get on the throttle and gets rid of the mid corner push.Seems to me the left rear upper link could go down a hole or two to help cure this without doing a spring change or maybe a stiffer rt.rear spring to drive the rt. more and help the car turn better. Good luck!

dirtywrench13
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 324
posted July 20, 2004 01:25 PM  
what about shock changes to help?i also have a lot of side to side adjustment on the pull-bar,any recommendations there?

Andre
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 45
posted July 22, 2004 01:07 AM  
Taking some of the angle out of the pull bar would help. Try 74-5 on LF Shock. 94 for both rear shocks.

zeroracing
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 1875
posted July 22, 2004 08:41 PM  
add more downhill angle to the rearward bar on the rr. this will help free up the car, and give the rr more lift.

dirtywrench13
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 324
posted July 26, 2004 05:42 AM  
WE SWAPPED SPRINGS FROM SIDE TO SIDE FOR LAST NIGHT,AND IT WAS FAST.VERY LOOSE THOUGH. 175 ON LR 200 ON RR.PUT 2 ROUNDS IN RF TO TIGHTEN IT,LOWERED LEFT UPPER 4-LINK BAR,AND ADDED 40 LBS OF BALAST.NOW IR ISNT LIFTING AS BAD ON THE LEFT,BUT IT DOESNT SEEM TO HAVE THE FORWARD BITE NOW.LOOSE DOOR FLEW UP AND HE COULDNT SEE OUT THE RIGHT SIDE,SO HE DROVE CONSERVATIVELY ENOUGH TO REMAIN TOP TEN.SO I DIDNT GET A "GOOD"LOOK AT HOW THE CAR WAS WORKING FOR THE FEATURE. THERES ALWAYS SATURDAY NIGHT!

2nd2none
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 755
posted July 26, 2004 05:48 AM  
A softer spring on the LR will get the car up on the bars quicker. 175 is probably too soft, but the 200 on the RR may have been what you was needing more than anything. Put a 225 in the LR and leave the RR with the 200 in it.

dirtywrench13
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 324
posted July 28, 2004 08:39 PM  
i'm about ready to get the z-link off and make it a 4 bar on both sides.

bulletgwd
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 3
posted July 28, 2004 11:09 PM  
Just curious, does everyone assume right side lead or is wheelbase lead not critical on dirt?

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