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jammin
Dirt Administrator

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posted May 14, 2001 10:59 AM  

I have seen this type of thing at a couple different tracks in our area(S.E. Mo.) and the main thing to do is to keep your head. Realize that this is the most convenient place to run and you want to keep your options open. If you get barred, you just lost your most important option, and that is to race there again. Next, try to contact the promotor or the senior track official. They will usually, and I do stress usually, listen to what you have to say. Lay it all out on the table. Tell them how you feel. At least that will give you the satisfaction of being heard. Then, wait and watch. See if the behavior is dealt with. If the person or persons are that big a problem, some other racer will eventually get tired of it too, and I can tell you for certain, power comes in numbers. If the person committing the offenses is a friend or relative of the promotor, they can only get by for so long until the number of cars will make it a business decision to run the perpetrator off.If all else fails, then the last resort would be to make the decision to go elsewhere or let them stop you from enjoying a good nite of racing. Hope this helps, and .......see ya at the track.

BILLY BOB
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 101
posted May 14, 2001 04:21 PM  
IT AIN'T WORTH IT. NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY RACETRACKS USUALLY WON'T LISTEN AND THEY MAKE YOU OUT TO BE A BAD GUY IF YOU RAISE AN EVEBROW AT WHAT THEY DO. I'VE BEEN ON BOTH SIDES, RAISING HECK AND TAKING IT IN STRIDE AND FROM MY EXPERIENCE JUST TAKE IT. MY DAD'S GOT A SAYING "YOU CAN'T FIGHT CITY HALL" AND NOWHERE IS THAT MORE TRUE THAN IN THE WORLD OF DIRT TRACKS. NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT YOU AREN'T GOING TO WIN THAT ARGUEMENT. IT IS BETTER TO JUST GO HOME COME BACK NEXT WEEK AND IF IT STILL BOTHERS YOU TALK TO THE PERSON IN CHARGE AND TELL HIM WHAT YOUR PROBLEM IS AND WHY YOU DON'T THINK IT WAS RIGHT. THEN GO OUT AND RACE CAUSE EVER WEEK IS A NEW WEEK.
BILLY BOB

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MOD RACER#93
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 315
posted May 14, 2001 06:34 PM  
i kinda agree with billy bob... theres really nothing you can do but take it... you can try to talk to the person in charge.. but that alwayz seems to be the problem.. finding someone in charge.. were are they.. you cant "talk" to the flagger.. they ask you to leave.. if you chew out the line up guy.. they get mad.. he knows nothing.. were is the person in charge.. the only thing you can do is come back the next week and at the drivers meeting.. while the flag man and promoter.. and whoever else is in charge is there.. and all the racers. are there. and just tell them how you feel.. it will accomplish nothing other than hopefully make you feel better because at least they heard how you feel about the call... i had a "call" made on me last week.. im just waiting now. hopefully some others will have more input on this.. so i will know what to do.

PEDDLER
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 446
posted May 14, 2001 07:12 PM  
Well as far as bad calls go, a local track here can't be consistent to who or on what the call is.Rough driving is always called on the retalitator, so the only way to get a point across is to continue to retalitate and tell the officals that they can either see it and black flag us or not see as in the past...get my drift.
I'll take a black if I have one comeing but I'l be darned if I lay down and take something not deserved.
Our officals could not make a call if it killed them.

Just my thoughts
The Peddler.

Racer4
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posted May 14, 2001 07:45 PM           send a private message to PEDDLER   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
Well, my experience has been if you go after somebody for payback your usually the one who pay's in the end. I'll be honest, that one time my car was way off in one and two and I was so desperate that I went through way to fast and used some helpless rookie as a cushion, my fault my flag. Another time I went after somebody for bumping me out of thier way, they were faster there and I went after them in the next turn and was caught up in a wreck that happened in front of us cause I was after him. If you can't take care of it off the track then just forget it, it's not safe and that's not what racing is about.

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Too Many Black Flags not enough Checkers!

poboy2
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 219
posted May 14, 2001 08:58 PM  
Oh no Jammin!
What did you do?!....LOL
Just kidding.

All kidding aside, I'm not much for hissy fits. Even when I do get upset, I don't let it eat at me.

dirtracer4u2
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 42
posted May 14, 2001 09:37 PM  
There have been some good points posted on this subject and I agree,at least in part, with all of the previous post.
Generally as a rule it is often better to take your lumps for that night and give yourself a week to cool off and set your head straight. Then the following week you can approach the management and state your case in a more civilized manner. Whether or not they will listen varies from track to track, so there is no guarantee anything will be done. It at least gives them a chance to do something.
I have also seen my share of screaming and fighting and have yet to see anyone convince the management to do anything with these tactics. Again, keeping your cool will help you to come across in a rational manner and increase your odds of a satisfactory decision.
If the incident involved two drivers, then they should be the ones to work it out. Sometimes the management or one of the officials will act as a mediator. The important thing about this situation is that the drivers should work it out without taking family,friends and everyone on their team with them. You end up with to many people with to many different opinions and this causes so much confusion that rarely can the two drivers have a chance at working it out. Revenge almost always leads to more problems and doesn't accomplish much. The risk to other drivers and cars on the track is to great. Revenge against one driver can be taken as a lack of respect for everyone else out there with you and that doesn't look pretty no matter where you are sitting.
Loading the car and leaving would often be the easiest thing to do, but I just can't see giving anyone else the pleasure of seeing you give in. No matter how you do this it will look like you couldn't accept the bad with the good. How many drivers have you seen throw a fit,load the car and leave, not ever coming back? What did they gain? Did they look like winners or whiners?
The bottom line is that what the managment and others do is a mark for or against them. What YOU do is a mark for or against YOU.
Good luck to all
DR4u2

Doc22
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 60
posted June 05, 2001 06:37 PM  
I have gotten mad and upset from a call from an official, then went off stomping my feet and saying a few choice words. Well, thinking back, I looked like an idiot. There are going to be bad calls in racing. That's part of it. You can make your point to an official, but do it professionally. If you can't accept bad calls, get out of racing. I qualified on the outside pole this past weekend and ran 2nd 19 out of 20 laps and then got together with the 3rd place car at the checkered flag and ended up 6th. Yea, I was upset, but that's racing!!!

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