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sherburn
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 6
posted May 16, 2004 10:15 PM  
I know nearly nothing about 4 cylinder/ import cars. I am in the process of building a 81 celica supra ministock. I am looking for other toyota racers to bounce stuff off of. (I think the ford guys have us a little outnumbered) For my first question, someone gave me a 22R short block, but I have no idea if it is late or early and don't know what the differences are. Second is there a way to wire this ignition and eliminate the ignitor? I have to keep this thing stock in our class so.... next I need to look at how I can improve the handling on this thing (never had to deal with struts before) we are running a .33 mile clay track with moderate banking, so anyone that would like to tackle all or one of those. that would be awsome.

Xtrem4U
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 144
posted May 17, 2004 05:32 AM  
You'll be fine with the celica. 22R block is the one to use. The difference is the deck height. Get a copy of your track rules, "STOCK" means different things @ different tracks. Can you run a crane or msd? What does car have to weight @ your track? What size wheels are you going to use? You'll be OK with the struts, the struts & tie rods are the weak link of the celica. Check the previous post on here about the celica front ends. What stage of build up are you in?

speedyd1
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 170
posted May 17, 2004 10:41 AM  
i believe lsengineering deals with toyota race engines. check the web or the last couple pages of circle track. they typically are listed there.22r will be hard to beat when properly built.

sherburn
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 6
posted May 17, 2004 11:11 AM  
we have to run dot tires, no aftermarket ignition. As far as the motor, I am planning on a 20R head if what I have is an early 22R block. bigest wheel I can run is a 15X8 the rules for the class are posted at www.sospeedway.com the car currently has a 5m-e (inline 6 engine.) will the trans bolt up to the 22R? I am just tearing down the car at this point, so just about anything is possible at this point.

Xtrem4U
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 144
posted May 18, 2004 08:11 AM  
Sounds like a fun class. The 20R head will work only if you are going to do a lot of work on it, if you are not going to work it, you should consider the 22R head (better flow). Ball park, start off with 358 rear gears, welded together. Get you a four core radiator & a Fail Safe thermostat (o'reilly's etc.). Toyota's do not start running til they reach 180 degrees. Whichever head you use, have a machine shop plane it. It doesn't hurt to flat mill as much as possible (there' you a little edge). Be sure to torque head bolts per toyota specs. Use a 350 holley carb & get you a drop in the tank electric fuel pump that went in like a 70's ford pkup ( their about $12.00). Lock out the vacumn advance on the distributor. Cut 1&1/2 coils out of the left front spring. Remove front stablizer bar. Read previous post on bracing front struts. Put a jack under rear pumpkin- with it jack-ed up your left rear tire should come up enough where you can roll a beer can under it, with your right rear tire touching the ground. Adjust yor right front tire in a little at the top & out @ the bottom. Keep car as light as possible!

Xtrem4U
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 144
posted May 18, 2004 08:13 AM  
Your best source for Toyota info is LC Engeering, go to their web page!

sherburn
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 6
posted May 18, 2004 10:34 AM  

Xtrem4U thanks for the help!

speeronline
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 102
posted May 20, 2004 08:06 PM  
I have found that I have a lot more control on my 83 Celica when I put the front sway bar back on... What I did was leave the right side linkage stock and used 1/2" all-thread and pulled the left side all the way down. AND... it may sound crazy, but, I drilled the bottom of the left front strut and then wrapped it with black tape after the oil drained out. I can drive through the turns full throttle with one hand on the wheel and plenty of control anywhere on the track. If you have a spare strut you should try it... BTW... I didn't cut the springs and the beer car under the RR tire still applies.
Speeronline



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